QANTAS - WHERE TO NOW?
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Of course. Yet again the domestic network will be left with an ageing fleet due for lots of heavy maintenance whilst the LCC gets all the shiny new stuff. Just another thing to show that this mob isn't serious about running a premium carrier.
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There will be Qantas painted 787's.
It will be operated by the same mob who operate Qantas painted 738's.
They are cheaper and AIPA failed to win the case in court to stop Qantas from operating in this way. 787's will never be flown by a mainline pilot (unless on LWOP).
It will be operated by the same mob who operate Qantas painted 738's.
They are cheaper and AIPA failed to win the case in court to stop Qantas from operating in this way. 787's will never be flown by a mainline pilot (unless on LWOP).
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Investors have expressed reservations about Qantas delaying the delivery of the A380s, saying it was pursuing short-term gains at the expense of long-term growth.
Will Seddon, a portfolio manager at White Funds Management, said Qantas was delaying efficiencies brought by new A380s, which would be critical to turning around its loss-making international business, in order to defend itself in the domestic market from Virgin's advances.
''It seems to be illogical and not great for investors. They shouldn't be taking the bait this easily. The key metric is not market share, the key metric is profitability,'' he said. ''As an investor, I would be concerned now that there is a market-share war going on, which is ultimately going to translate into a price war.''
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Will Seddon, a portfolio manager at White Funds Management, said Qantas was delaying efficiencies brought by new A380s, which would be critical to turning around its loss-making international business, in order to defend itself in the domestic market from Virgin's advances.
''It seems to be illogical and not great for investors. They shouldn't be taking the bait this easily. The key metric is not market share, the key metric is profitability,'' he said. ''As an investor, I would be concerned now that there is a market-share war going on, which is ultimately going to translate into a price war.''
Read more: Airlines battle for the pointy end
Basically this current lot of managers are out of their depth, have no feeling for the pride Qantas employees have in the company, and have no feel for the way the Company used to be perceived by the wider aviation community, a recipe for loss of market share as airlines have always been a people business. This new breed of "clinical bean counting" managers are are slowly but surely choking the life out of the business promoting its traditional customers to look elsewhere..
This will only be reversed if the management comes to its senses by redirecting the B787 back into mainline. As I said previously on this thread, Jetstar has very little brand power with the punters in Asia compared to the Qantas brand.
AJ & BB keep telling us otherwise which is a downright blatant lie or wishful thinking at best.
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I find it interesting that Qantas is feeling threatened by Virgin. They feel they need to do something to protect market share. That would assume that Virgin is gaining market share. So, you would have to also assume that by engaging its workforce, developing service, investing in product and moving away from low cost to premium product, they are increasing market share. It is not a long bow to draw to then assume that doing the opposite will have the opposite outcome.
Qantas has decided to compete by disengaging staff, reduce costs, put nothing in to the premium product and develop the low cost side of the business. Absolutely brilliant.
Qantas has decided to compete by disengaging staff, reduce costs, put nothing in to the premium product and develop the low cost side of the business. Absolutely brilliant.
Rumour has it that virgin may be getting a significant number of 330s to do regional flying. Unlike Joyce who has never used his scientific training and run a simple test between his two airlines, think Hawaii. I'm sure JB would love to send his uncomplicated model there and put the cat amongst the pigeons! Better product than both and rip the guts out of their two brand model with one fell swoop. He must be sad that's he's doing this to QANTAS in a strange sort of way....
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Qantas delays A380s to save $400m
Friday May 4, 2012
Qantas is delaying delivery of two new Airbus A380 aircraft as it tries to save $400m.
Qantas will cut spending by a further $A400 million next financial year by delaying delivery of new A380 aircraft.
A review of the airline's maintenance operations had concluded, but a decision would not be announced until mid-May,
Qantas said in a statement released today.Qantas was to receive two new super jumbo A380s in early 2013, but will now take delivery of the aircraft in the 2016/17 financial year.
Another six A380s will be delivered to Qantas from 2018/19.
The changes will cut Qantas' capital expenditure by $400 million in 2012/13 to $1.9 billion.
The spending reductions follow a previously announced $500 million worth of cuts, which included staff cuts in its catering, cabin crew, pilots, engineering and ground operations.
Qantas has also been reviewing its maintenance operations to identify cost savings, which is likely to result in job losses.
Chief executive Alan Joyce has previously said keeping three maintenance sites - Melbourne, Avalon and Brisbane - was not viable.
Qantas also announced a big increase in capacity in its domestic business, as it fights to maintain at least 65 per cent market share.
"Our goal in the domestic market remains simple and consistent - we intend to retain the market share that enables us to maximise profit," Joyce said.
Qantas will step up competition against Virgin Australia by adding extra services during peak times on the busiest east coast business routes between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
It will also bring back Boeing 747s on its Sydney and Perth route, plus more Airbus A330s the Melbourne and Perth route.
That will increase the capacity on those east coast and west coast routes.
Jetstar will also increase its capacity, while QantasLink will increase capacity across Queensland.
More detail about new routes and timing will be announced at a later date, Qantas said.
Friday May 4, 2012
Qantas is delaying delivery of two new Airbus A380 aircraft as it tries to save $400m.
Qantas will cut spending by a further $A400 million next financial year by delaying delivery of new A380 aircraft.
A review of the airline's maintenance operations had concluded, but a decision would not be announced until mid-May,
Qantas said in a statement released today.Qantas was to receive two new super jumbo A380s in early 2013, but will now take delivery of the aircraft in the 2016/17 financial year.
Another six A380s will be delivered to Qantas from 2018/19.
The changes will cut Qantas' capital expenditure by $400 million in 2012/13 to $1.9 billion.
The spending reductions follow a previously announced $500 million worth of cuts, which included staff cuts in its catering, cabin crew, pilots, engineering and ground operations.
Qantas has also been reviewing its maintenance operations to identify cost savings, which is likely to result in job losses.
Chief executive Alan Joyce has previously said keeping three maintenance sites - Melbourne, Avalon and Brisbane - was not viable.
Qantas also announced a big increase in capacity in its domestic business, as it fights to maintain at least 65 per cent market share.
"Our goal in the domestic market remains simple and consistent - we intend to retain the market share that enables us to maximise profit," Joyce said.
Qantas will step up competition against Virgin Australia by adding extra services during peak times on the busiest east coast business routes between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
It will also bring back Boeing 747s on its Sydney and Perth route, plus more Airbus A330s the Melbourne and Perth route.
That will increase the capacity on those east coast and west coast routes.
Jetstar will also increase its capacity, while QantasLink will increase capacity across Queensland.
More detail about new routes and timing will be announced at a later date, Qantas said.
Did someone mention leadership and trust?
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It will also bring back Boeing 747s on its Sydney and Perth route, plus more Airbus A330s the Melbourne and Perth route.
I just watched a show on Nat Geo about the construction of the B747-8I and I'm more convinced than ever that it is a far superior aircraft (for QF routes) than the A380. The best thing for Qantas to do now is to trade the A380's in on a fleet of B747-8's (supported by a fleet of B777-300ER's). It would make Qantas far more competitive and would give the aircraft market a big shake-up.
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I seriously doubt that rumour upperlobe. It would mean losing face over the "flagship" and these people would have to admit making an error. Something they will never acknowledge.
Going boeing your idea is great except it is based on the assumption they want Qantas to be competitive on the OS routes.
Going boeing your idea is great except it is based on the assumption they want Qantas to be competitive on the OS routes.
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Wedcue said;
INCORRECT. 
The integration agreement will be scrapped in June as part of the arbitration which will allow the 787s to be operated both Internationally and Domestically under the short haul award by the surplus Mainline pilots.
There will be Qantas painted 787's.
It will be operated by the same mob who operate Qantas painted 738's.
They are cheaper and AIPA failed to win the case in court to stop Qantas from operating in this way. 787's will never be flown by a mainline pilot (unless on LWOP).
It will be operated by the same mob who operate Qantas painted 738's.
They are cheaper and AIPA failed to win the case in court to stop Qantas from operating in this way. 787's will never be flown by a mainline pilot (unless on LWOP).
The integration agreement will be scrapped in June as part of the arbitration which will allow the 787s to be operated both Internationally and Domestically under the short haul award by the surplus Mainline pilots.
which will allow the 787s to be operated both Internationally and Domestically under the short haul award by the surplus Mainline pilots.
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Stalin, it appears that you think the SH award is superior to the LH award.
under the CAO48 Exemption that it operates under, the maximium TOD is 13 hours (irrespective of how many additional pilots are included in the crew). This would be very restrictive on an aircraft that is designed to have an 8000NM range (8500NM for the B787-9).
How does FWA "scrap" an agreement that is not being determined???
My thoughts. The company is happy for the 4 engine aircraft to remain on the LHA (or what is left of it after June). Then the A330 (earmarked for domestic ops in the future) ,787 (new type but earmarked int & dom ops) and 737 to be operated under the SHA (with applicable exemptions) to allow (perceived) flexibility to operate between the longhaul and shorthaul flying.
Management have a perception that the SHA is very efficient and comparative to our competitors, which is probably true.
Basically I think they only want to pay us stick hours, not MDC. As I said, JMHO.
Under 48E, augmented crew can go to 22hrs TOD with a bunk, 16hrs with a screened seat from cabin and 14hrs with a seat in the cabin.