PPRuNe Forums

Go Back   PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Forgotten your Username/Password?

Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 21st May 2012, 00:45   #201 (permalink)


Probationary PPRuNer
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Macedon
Posts: 1
Representing AMEs and LAMEs together is not a conflict of interest.

Sorry ALAEA Fed Sec, AME's will never trust the ALAEA to act in anyone's interest but LAME's. I don't recall you kicking up a stink when all of the Tech Officers from Aircraft Airworthiness were told their jobs would move to Sydney earlier this year. All the AME's would be for you would be headcount and dues!
Ozcan is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 02:07   #202 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 273
Its official- Tullamarine is gone.

Vale & Condolences to those in Heavy. Best of luck.
Long Bay Mauler is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 02:15   #203 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 1,126
Released to the ASX this morning

Qantas to consolidate Heavy Maintenance Facilities

Last edited by Transition Layer; 21st May 2012 at 04:48.
Transition Layer is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 02:18   #204 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Brisbane
Age: 67
Posts: 1,419
I know a Bloke who reduced the Maintenance/Servicing costs on his car by about 60% saved him a lot of money but now he is always complaining because it breaks down all the time and is a death trap.

At least he can (usually) pull over to the side of the road and wait for help, hard to do with an Aircraft at 30,000 feet.
airsupport is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 02:36   #205 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: AUSTRALIA
Posts: 273
Just thinking that the timing is interesting about this announcement about Heavy,as it coincides exactly with Craig Thomson speaking in Parliament.

Guess which will have the greater front page coverage? And it probably won't be the poor Qantas workers,except maybe in Melbourne.
Long Bay Mauler is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 02:48   #206 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 57
Why did the ALAEA sign an EA deal and not try for some job security at arbitration?
Motorola is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 02:55   #207 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 75
R U 4 Real

One of the biggest points pushed by the ALAEA at the last EBA was for job security. The company would not even consider it. This is all part of a much bigger and longer term agenda. It does not matter what we give them they will always ask for more. My belief is that, at best, most of us in QF engineering have a maximum of 2 years left before we are put out the door.
lamem is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:03   #208 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Oz
Posts: 380
Closing Tulla, will be as successful as the closing of H245.
Clipped is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:06   #209 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 13
How many LAME's to loose there job's? How many LAME's in the country on 457 VISA's?
A320skoda is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:09   #210 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 25
There is about another 250 jobs to go over the next 12 months at Qantas Defence Services with the government grounding the C130H fleet. In total that's a lot of aircraft trades out of work in a small industry in Australia.
Hercfix is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:12   #211 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 498
Quote:
There is about another 250 jobs to go over the next 12 months at Qantas Defence Services with the government grounding the C130H fleet. In total that's a lot of aircraft trades out of work in a small industry in Australia.
QDS to lose 250 and about 600 in Tulla. The government has grounded the C130's. They're donating them to the Indonesian Air Force! Work that one out!
QF94 is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:19   #212 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 498
From the Press Release this morning.

Quote:

“Qantas has invested heavily over the past 10 years in new aircraft that are more advanced, more efficient,

attractive to our customers and require less maintenance, less often. But we cannot take advantage of this new generation of aircraft if we continue to do heavy maintenance in the same way we did 10 years ago.
Last time I saw an A380 (yesterday) it had its cowls open and a plethera of engineers around it. This is ops normal for A380 Line Maintenence.

I feel for the guys in MEL as I did for those when SYD Heavy was shut down.
QF94 is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:23   #213 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South East
Posts: 14
A320 Skoda, are you saying the jobs that no one would take and were left for 457 visa holders are now good enough for you?
easily_confused is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:52   #214 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Near an Airport
Posts: 34
Quote:
easily_confused: A320 Skoda, are you saying the jobs that no one would take and were left for 457 visa holders are now good enough for you?
A320Skoda has a point: There's no longer a skills shortage, is there? So the 457 visa scheme will need to be looked into at some point. Or would you like to continue it and create a further surplus of skilled workers that will have to fight for work that doesnt exist which will not be of any benefit to anyone?

AWBC
AWB_Clerk is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:55   #215 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Back again.
Posts: 1,151
It took me 40 hours to get to Dallas 3 years ago with Qantas from a scheduled Brisbane-Los Angeles flight because of serviceability issues. That was the last time I flew Qantas internationally. Seems like I won't be coming back to Qantas anytime soon to get confronted with more delayed departures and missed connections. Oh well...

Last edited by Lodown; 21st May 2012 at 03:55.
Lodown is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 03:56   #216 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South East
Posts: 14
I couldn't see a case for further 457 visas to be issued, but people will need to now accept lower wages as new ventures will not be as lucrative.
easily_confused is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 04:09   #217 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Near an Airport
Posts: 34
Quote:
I couldn't see a case for further 457 visas to be issued, but people will need to now accept lower wages as new ventures will not be as lucrative.
I think the point here is that a 457 visa is a temporary permit to work in the country while a skills shortage exists. Such a shortage no longer exists, so it stands to reason that if there is no shortage then there is no longer a reason to continue existing temporary visas, let alone issue new ones.

AWBC
AWB_Clerk is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 05:11   #218 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Bubble
Posts: 601
Quote:
Mr Joyce flagged more job cuts could be on the cards in the future as operations at Avalon continued to be reviewed.
He said the reality was that the heavy maintenance work at Tullamarine and Avalon had dropped off considerably, partly as a result of Qantas buying more modern aircraft which do not need to be serviced as often as older models.
While he was unable to say how long Avalon would remain viable, Mr Joyce said it was inevitable that Qantas would one day have just one heavy maintenance facility in Australia.``We know we have to move to one maintenance facility over time,'' he said.
If you're currently working in Avalon, there it is. You either diversify your skill set and pick a new industry or you get out ASAP. The investment is being made in Brisbane and AJ has basically said that AVV will exist only till the 767s are gone.
600ft-lb is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 06:42   #219 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: australia
Posts: 213
600 inch-lbs

think you will find "till the 747's are gone".....here we go again more redundancy's on offer all over ...hope its the case so no one gets tapped...the rim
the rim is offline  
Old 21st May 2012, 06:53   #220 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Earth
Posts: 797
Media Release was out before anyone told anything at Avalon .What a way to deal with Staff.
Jethro Gibbs is offline  
Closed Thread
 
 
 


Thread Tools


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:59.


vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
© 1996-2012 The Professional Pilots Rumour Network