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One thing is certain, Nick won't be scavenging food scraps out of bins and living on the street. Far to wily for that. There will be a few jam jars stuffed with coins buried out there 
But surely this is an opportune time for the return of EvilC to the Pprune pages?
But surely this is an opportune time for the return of EvilC to the Pprune pages?
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ADS-B mandated now, baby. No ADS-B, no fly above FL280. Not across the continent, anyway. You apparently apply for an exemption for each single flight (with 2 weeks notice) to operate only within the east coast radar coverage "J-curve", and still a clearance above FL280 is at ATC discretion. Kind of eliminates short notice ad-hoc opportunistic charters anyway
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Not if they're going to Nauru as someone suggests - exempted airspace I recall.
Also understand that it is a single notification to CASA (as stated 14 days before commencing operation) to advise exempted operation status for the entire exemption period and not on a flight-by-flight basis. The exemption, as such, has already been granted.
CASA EX113/13 - Exemption - temporary relief from requirement to carry serviceable ADS-B transmitting equipment when operating in defined exempted airspace refers.
Is it confirmed, anyway, that the DC-8 isn't ADSB compliant?
Also understand that it is a single notification to CASA (as stated 14 days before commencing operation) to advise exempted operation status for the entire exemption period and not on a flight-by-flight basis. The exemption, as such, has already been granted.
CASA EX113/13 - Exemption - temporary relief from requirement to carry serviceable ADS-B transmitting equipment when operating in defined exempted airspace refers.
Is it confirmed, anyway, that the DC-8 isn't ADSB compliant?
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No place for facts in this forum, dodo!
I wonder if this brings back that almost extinct breed, the FE to the Aussie Aviation scene? Were any DC-8-70 srs reconfigured for just 2 tech crew?
I wonder if this brings back that almost extinct breed, the FE to the Aussie Aviation scene? Were any DC-8-70 srs reconfigured for just 2 tech crew?
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I don't think any DC8 were reconfigured to 2 crew. The CFM56 conversion was done way to early for that and by the time the DC10/MD10 conversions were coming online with Fedex, the DC8s were just about finished.
Also a lot of the US and South American "tramp" outfits also use the FE to certify transits and maintenance and most US PFEs have an A&P as well so there was no cost saving to do away with PFE.
In those companies who don't use a PFE, the 3rd man is a 3rd pilot.That was the situation for most 3 man cockpits for mainline US and South American airlines.It was only the American "tramps" and non scheds that in the end used PFEs for the above reason.
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Also a lot of the US and South American "tramp" outfits also use the FE to certify transits and maintenance and most US PFEs have an A&P as well so there was no cost saving to do away with PFE.
In those companies who don't use a PFE, the 3rd man is a 3rd pilot.That was the situation for most 3 man cockpits for mainline US and South American airlines.It was only the American "tramps" and non scheds that in the end used PFEs for the above reason.
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How long is the length of string?
What about Skyforce Aviation trading as Pionair Global? Don't Messrs Leach and Lee have a financial interest in this outfit? Are there any financial issues within this entity that is yet to come to light?
Either way I am confident that Nick will pop up again within another company that will be casually granted an AOC by CASA.
Either way I am confident that Nick will pop up again within another company that will be casually granted an AOC by CASA.
It is highly unlikely that any of the above-mentioned entities would ever meet all the CASA compliance requirements to get an AOC here. I will be at room temperature long before any of them run jets on an Aussie AOC. It is unlikely that the Kiwis would entertain them either, so no fear of any monkey business via the TTMRA.
More likely, any operation would be a 'flag of convenience' arrangement.
A FAOC issued via another ICAO contracting state allowing operation to and from Australian ports of entry is easy enough, especially for freight. There are ICAO states, and then there are ICAO states..........
While no fan of these guys, can't say I would blame them for trying to get around CASA any which way.
More likely, any operation would be a 'flag of convenience' arrangement.
A FAOC issued via another ICAO contracting state allowing operation to and from Australian ports of entry is easy enough, especially for freight. There are ICAO states, and then there are ICAO states..........
While no fan of these guys, can't say I would blame them for trying to get around CASA any which way.
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There are plenty of us nostalgic types just happy to see a DC-8 gracing the local aviation scene. We've had an interesting array of aero-dinasaurs try to make a go of it linking BNE and western Pacific islands over the past 15 or so years... B727, AN-12, IL-18, Yak42, Belfast, ... that CL-44G thing looked like it was really going to happen for a while too.,....
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