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Old 13th Nov 2011, 08:34
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Media rage against unions.

Get a load of this, bursting out of todays Sunday Telegraph.

Union bashing au go go, is this the next tactic?

Look at all these naughty criminal unions, all supported by the Labor Government and making a mockery of Fair Work.

Give us a break, seriously, I thought journalism was about reporting on current events NOT PUSHING THE PERSONAL AGENDAS OF THE PROPRIETOR.

Miranda Devine you are an absolute disgrace.

Union heavies' evil game of chicken at Baiada Poultry, whose Laverton North factory is in Julia Gillard's electorate | thetelegraph.com.au

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wo burly men are trying to pull his keys out of the ignition, but the guard is resisting. He has the keys in his hand and is not going to give them over. One union thug starts punching him through the open window. Big wild angry punches aimed at his head.
I watched with horror at those scenes on TV and have seen similar scenes at picket lines over many years. Truly the ugly face of trade unionism. Watching the marching mob with banners unfurled through the QANTAS terminal in Sydney certainly did not endear waiting passengers. Bloody frightening stuff but always expected.
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When you have SP as your head you are bound to lose.
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As opposed to the ugly face of management?

My feeling is that articles like this will become more common and are intended to create a groundswell of opinion against the government and FWA in particular.
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It will polarize public opinion, the percentage either way is the unknown.

I was definitely an anti juliar until recent times, now I think I can put up with her/their incompetence in running the economy in the interest of better IR regs.
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Good luck with that! The Ranga will of course help you!!
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If you want to generalize don't forget the management at Enron, Lehmann Bros, HIH, or, a bit more recently, Berlusconi!

I would mention Ansett but I realize most of them are back at Qantas.
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What gets me is only ONE journo (Hamish Mcdonald) is the only one who has bothered to look into the actual problems of Qantas against its management, the rest of the right have taken up the position against the unions and supporting management for no other reason than a political gain. Whilst I loath the Labor/Greens alliance, I change hats when it comes to the poor treatment of QF staff over the last ten years, and wonder why only ONE journo asks the hard questions. Political of course. The reality is they don't give a ratz for the staff or indeed the airline, and will quite happily see the whole box and dice go down the gurgler, and if it hurts the current govt and the unions well good for them.
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RENURPP Julia Gillard is not going to help she wants everyone gone .
Prime Minister Julia Gillard's warning to workforce - worse to come | Courier Mail
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Joyce's action will result in changing the FWA rules and has done the union movement a favour in the longer term by highlighting the lengths a company can go to. He had a win the other day but shot himself in the foot too.
As for the Murdoch press... Nothing new there.
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You've taken me the wrong way, I didn't mean I would support them without question, I meant up until recent imes the ALP didn't have a look in for my vote, now depending on their IR platform thy have an opportunity. I am generalizing here!
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If you think management in QF are bad by god they are heaps worse in the Chicken meat industry. I used to work in that scum filled industry to pay for my pilot training. I still remember getting called in by the factory manager and he told me if I keep telling people to vote no to a pathetic contract they were offering I would be out the gate. I will not go into details but after I got into the union negotiating team, well lets just say I was "Winning!" Union thugs are always and have always been in the media pity some only think its a recent fad, its been happening for decades and decades. The funny thing is we always win so don't worry about it all these media types are on a tightrope of being sacked at any minute thats why they envy us.. BRING IT! I love it the only complainers are the ones most to lose, they cant hack we have better conditions than them, it is very sweet! so sweet I need some more sugar!
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RENURPP

You are reflecting society , not that i support her but on current trends Julia will $hit over abbot in the next election, the coalition needs a real leader. Lets hope they get one.
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RENURRP and all the other straw graspers,

Unions are not in 'The Plan'. Both major parties are on the same sheet of music.

You WILL have individual contracts. You WILL have carbon trading. You WILL have an Asian free trade agreement. You WILL be engaged in unpopular, illegal wars. You WILL support tyrants. You WILL accept foreign ownership of the land. You WILL adopt nuclear power and then nuclear waste storage. You WILL have a compliant Prime Minister.

It's not up for debate.

Start reading some of Breakfast Burrito's information or you're going to wake up one day wondering what the f*ck happened.
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LT Selfridge is spot on . If in any doubt I encourage you to read this from Michael West's column SMH Nov 12 2011 to see what the pillars of society in pin stripe suits are really up to with the publics money. To save time I will cut and paste the last 7 paragraphs ( my underlines) .

And so three weeks are left to run in executive pay season. The impending lowlight this week is a situation so distressing it does not lend itself to flippant coverage at all. Here are the bare bones:
At BlueScope Steel's annual meeting on Thursday, shareholders will be asked to approve $3.1 million in executive bonuses. The salary of the chief executive, Paul O'Malley, is up 1.3 per cent. But these rises came in a year when the board and executive presided over a $1.05 billion loss. Dividend to shareholders was nil. And the bonus announcement was accompanied by news that 1,000 workers are to be sacked.
There is more, sadly. BlueScope's share price tanked 50 per cent last year. The company is struggling to survive and this week the government pushed a $300 million rescue package through the Senate for BlueScope and OneSteel.

This is the quintessence of corporate welfare, privatising the losses and capitalising the gains. Employees, taxpayers and shareholders have lost - executives have gained. At the least, the government should subtract $3 million for these morbid bonuses.

For the business community this is an ugly time of the year, the time when pay and performance come under the microscope in parts of the finance press. Pay inevitably exceeds performance.

Boards can, mostly, rely on institutional shareholders to push through their pay deals. Industry funds often take a more active line on pay but the big banks control much of the institutional vote via their wealth management divisions. They vote with the boards.

And they don't have to disclose how they are voting with other people's money, yet.

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Miranda Devine is on the same pedestal of 'journalism' as Andrew Bolt and they're essentially the printed equivalent of Alan Jones. All three are notoriously anti-Labor and pro-LNP which should be obvious to even the dullest lightbulb...

People who read what they have to say have already made up their minds so you haven't much to worry about. Laurie Oakes wrote one article for News Ltd that praised Gillard and demonised Abbott and the internet commenters were foaming at mouth calling him all sorts of colourful names. The equivalent situation is only slightly better at Fairfax...

Thank goodness we have a medium that provides us with balanced reporting of current affairs... oh wait.
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Different Spin

Michael West SMH writes,
This is the quintessence of corporate welfare, privatising the losses and capitalising the gains. Employees, taxpayers and shareholders have lost - executives have gained. At the least, the government should subtract $3 million for these morbid bonuses.


Should Read,

Big Business and Government have generated a system that privatises profit, nationalises losses and socialises risk........

Who's paying for it all?

The whole system stinks to high heaven, and its all the unions fault. Read average Australians getting a fair go, how dare they.......

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Hang on, The public points finger at Qantas and PM in poll




Public points its finger at Qantas and PM in poll

QANTAS has emerged as the chief villain after the dispute that momentarily paralysed the nation, with a new poll showing more voters disapproving of its actions than those of any other key player.
The latest Herald/Nielsen poll finds 60 per cent of voters disapproved of the decision by Qantas two weeks ago to ground its entire domestic and international fleet as a tactic to force an end to a long-running dispute with three unions.
Only 36 per cent of those surveyed agreed with the measure that left thousands stranded at home and abroad.


The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, who moved to terminate the dispute by referring it immediately to Fair Work Australia for resolution, was not rewarded in the court of public opinion. The poll found only 40 per cent approved of her handling of the dispute while 46 per cent disapproved.
Labor and Greens voters were far more supportive of Ms Gillard's actions than were Coalition voters. Vice versa, Coalition voters were more supportive of the action by Qantas than were Labor and Greens voters.
The unions also found themselves on the wrong side of public opinion with 49 per cent disapproving of the industrial action they took in their dispute with Qantas. Only 41 per cent approved of union action.


The poll of 1400 voters was taken from Thursday night to Saturday night, a fortnight after Qantas grounded its fleet. Since then, Qantas has embarked on a public relations offensive, offering every inconvenienced passenger a full flight plus reimbursement for costs incurred for being grounded.
The period also encompassed a row in which the Coalition said Ms Gillard should have used a separate section of the act which would have terminated the dispute immediately, stopped Qantas grounding its fleet and bypassed Fair Work Australia.


The dispute has also ignited an industrial relations policy battle in Canberra with the Coalition and big business siding with Qantas, saying it had no other choice.
Business and some in the Coalition claim that the unions were able to bring Qantas to its knees because Labor's Fair Work laws, which replaced Work Choices, enable unions to bargain on a greater range of issues, including job security.
The Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, disagreed, saying the Qantas dispute was not a matter of policy but the Prime Minister not using all the tools at her disposal to end it while keeping the planes in the air.


The Assistant Treasurer, Bill Shorten, said yesterday the Fair Work Act should not be amended to remove job security provisions from the bargaining process.
''[The dispute] was a failure of leadership within Qantas for the years leading up to the grounding of the airline to be able to convince its workforce about workplace change,'' Mr Shorten told Sky News. ''Too much of the political debate about industrial relations in Australia comes down to a debate about what is the right regulation. We get the microscope out to look at the legislation, but when do we start talking about good leadership in Australia?''
The Fair Work Act will be reviewed next year.
The ACTU secretary, Jeff Lawrence, concurred with Mr Shorten, saying the Qantas grounding was an example of ''employer militancy''.
The anti union stuff is coming from News Ltd, first the Richard de Crespigny thing in the Australian, now the other stuff above, which was a setup in my view... I think the management have dug a whole for themselves, people are not buying it, dragging Gillard into this mess,

On the other hand, I think it is fair to say, Fairfax press have been a lot better., they appear to have a much clearer view of the situation and smelled a few rats in the rat press releases.. Hamish Mcdonald's story, another good example.

Having said that, the big guns will be out this week in force, (The bloody Liberals and big business) supporting Joyce's decision. It's going to be a tough week to win the PR war for the union boss's but believe there is still enough support out there with the punters, they still see Qantas as Australian, something Q management have great trouble understanding, they thought they would be well ahead in the polls by this stage of events.

Seems like they have miscalculated, as the dispute has been very badly handled by LC & AJ since the Asia push campaign started back in March.

It is my gut feeling, Gillard deep down is embarrassed about how easy it was for Joyce and his gang of lawyer's to trash the FWA policy that she is so fond of, although she would never admit it. Gillard, Shorten and Albersleezy looked stunned on the day of the grounding, they were all over the place with their media interviews...... lost sheep really..
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It may have escaped your attention, but the war on working people by the 1% is worldwide. With a little luck, you will see industry protectionism reassert itself starting around 2012 if the few forces of good, that haven't been bought out, fail in their attempts to keep economic policy sane.
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A return to industrial protectionism?
Gosh I don't know what to say to that, really I don't. Return to substandard and poor products, protected by the government because it's Australian?
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