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Old 19th Feb 2012, 13:52   #321 (permalink)
 
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Would Skywest take on the Port Hedland to Brisbane run as well? It could be a stepping stone for them to grow eastwards. QF may grab it as they already do MEL-PHE so the BNE run could compliment it.

Thai could take on the HKT routes as long as it not canabilise the BKK flights too much. With their lower cost base it may be more viable for them.
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Old 19th Feb 2012, 19:04   #322 (permalink)
 
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QF to run BNE-PHE from mid March.
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Old 19th Feb 2012, 20:04   #323 (permalink)
 
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What action did the regulator take and their justification for their actions or inaction as the case may be.....
Gravel Kit The regulator has nothing to do with the day to day running of an Airline's business or financial strength/weakness. The regulator is there to ensure the Airline complys with the conditions or their AOC and operate safely.

If I owned an airline the last mob I would turn to for business acumen would be CASA!
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Old 19th Feb 2012, 22:16   #324 (permalink)
 
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Lock the bastard up. When will people learn? Compass I and II, Ozjet, Strategic, Ansett II etc. When the writing is on the wall it means its only a matter of time. Who's next to go? Tiger????

About 300 staff were left without jobs when the airline went into administration on Friday morning.
One member of a flight crew in Honolulu said the crew was stranded until an operations staff member worked in his own time to secure return flights home.

Read more: Jettisoned staff 'disgusted'

And where is Michael James now???
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 06:01   #325 (permalink)
 
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Emirates wanting F /O s Decs and Airbus pilots

If you are at all interested take a look at EKPILOT.COM . Nothing good in an airline failing . Good luck to you all !
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 10:17   #326 (permalink)
 
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Skystar320,

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Skywest now do the RPT to Derby / Curtin announced on their website. Could not think of a better operator!
I could think of one...with a large established Perth base and reliable equipment capable of doing the task. (i.e. equal to the size of the A320).
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 19:50   #327 (permalink)
 
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If you don't have the means to support yourself abroad for a few extra days and pay for a ticket on another airline then stick with the big boys.

They went with AA because they didn't have enough to go with the big boys in the first place.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 23:26   #328 (permalink)
 
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From this morning's Business News...Tues 21/2/12...

Air Australia executive had no aviation sector experience | Latest Business & Australian Stock market News | Perth Now
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 23:28   #329 (permalink)
 
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They left out that he worked for a period in Qld Transport Air Transport group overseeing the regulated Qld routes etc.....
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 00:20   #330 (permalink)
 
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From today's Age newspaper:

Message from Michael 'fooled failed airline staff'
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 02:38   #331 (permalink)
 
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He got a bit of that practicing fooling staff when he (Strategic) purchased the Ozjet AOC by the Deed of Arrangement. Back then he only fooled the staff out of around $400,000 in entitlements.

As they say, leopards don't change their spots.

All the best to the guys and girls who's jobs are gone. But you will most likely move onto much better things.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 04:19   #332 (permalink)
 
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Travel Insurance that DOES cover Insolvency?

So... Does anyone know of a travel insurer that DOES provide insolvency cover.

I'm off to the USA/China on Sunday, and checking my Travel Insurance (a big company, one I used to work for...) and whadda ya know, it doesn't cover insolvency.

I rang them and they cheerfully told me "No, we don't sell such cover, the risk is too high." And "no" they couldn't tell me who does offer such cover...

Many thanks for any help
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 06:13   #333 (permalink)
 
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@ JohnMcGhie

I have heard that there are one or two insurers which still offer this ( which really surprises me) , though off the top of my head I couldn't give you a name.

The reason I am surprised that anyone still offers it is that most travel insurers re-wrote their policies to exclude financial collapse in the wake of the 11 September attacks as a large number of airlines went bung in quick succession, so it is not as if it is a recent development.

The risks were just too great to keep offering that sort of cover and given the current state of the industry I can't see most insurers bringing it back any time soon... unless of course people are prepared to trade the extra cover for significant additional premiums.

Good luck... and if you find a company which offers it please post... I would be very interested to know ( and I am sure that a lot of others would be too) .
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 06:42   #334 (permalink)
 
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Inserers who claim to cover Insolvency

Thanks Kiwiandrew:

I found these three:
http://www.suresave.net.au/holiday.php
http://www.aussietravelcover.com.au/
http://www.covermore.com.au/compare-our-plans

Cost appears "reasonable" (about $300.00).

I can't be sure whether this is effectively the same policy "rebadged" by three providers.

Each of these policies includes an "exclusion list" of airlines they won't cover. Interestingly, there are some very big players on there: and of interest (to me) is that two airlines whose initials are "AA" are not covered.

One is of course the subject of this thread. But the other came as a surprise to me!

Cheers
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 20:12   #335 (permalink)
 
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Air Australia continued selling tickets despite desperate effort to raise cash | Latest Business & Australian Stock market News | The Courier-Mail

This is interesting. While mates were leaving good jobs to join AA it looks like AA new that they were desperate for money. Should this have been shared with the new troops to help them make a better choice before leaving good jobs?

Also, it looks like they were desperate for cash but still spent a motsa on the well reported party in Honolulu. This all smells very ugly to me.
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 01:28   #336 (permalink)
 
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This is interesting. While mates were leaving good jobs to join AA it looks like AA new that they were desperate for money. Should this have been shared with the new troops to help them make a better choice before leaving good jobs?

Also, it looks like they were desperate for cash but still spent a motsa on the well reported party in Honolulu. This all smells very ugly to me.
Ugly is just the start of it. I warned people on this very forum that were after A320 jobs to take Jetstar or even Tiger over Strategic. There is one very simple rule - do NOT work for a private company wherever possible. Private operators do NOT have to do the same financial reporting as public companies and as such can hide behind false walls of ego and bravado. If anybody had spent the money and had a full financial credit report done on Strategic they could have seen it was doomed to fail. When you work for a company it is the same as lending them your own money - you should check out their financial status up front.

Anybody can get a full Dun and Bradstreet Report that will give you the full picture Dun and Bradstreet - D&B Report
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 03:07   #337 (permalink)
 
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Some people just don't listen, there were plenty of us on here saying that the move to 'air australia' was a crazy move. You need very, very, very deep pockets to move into such a saturated market and survive. I feel really sorry for the guys and girls who got sucked into this mess and are now out of work.
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 04:35   #338 (permalink)
 
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Some people just don't listen, there were plenty of us on here saying that the move to 'air australia' was a crazy move.
...and for your efforts you got called mean, nasty and a troublemaker by quite a few posters. Wanting something to fail and observing that it looks like it will fail are two different things.

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I feel really sorry for the guys and girls who got sucked into this mess and are now out of work.
Same. I dealt with a few of them and they all seemed to have a lot of drive and enthusiasm for the venture. It's a shame the company appears to have used them and treated them like mushrooms.
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 05:13   #339 (permalink)
 
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Were most of the AA flightdeck crew already endorsed on type when they joined or have a few people who signed up to a bond now ended up as free agents?

BTW I'm not looking to play down the suffering of employees done wrong.

FRQ CB
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 05:33   #340 (permalink)
 
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Most VC drivers were already experienced on type, and they were quite a experienced group in saying that. Most were ex Tiger.

Only A320 jobs in the country at the moment is really JQ, no idea if they are currently recruiting. Otherwise there is always Asia or EK!
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