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Old 10th Jul 2011, 01:26   #1 (permalink)
 
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QF cancels flights to Queenstown Sunday

QF have just cancelled today's ZQN flights sighting bad weather!!

Yes we had a lot of snow overnight BUT the runways, taxyways and aprons are clear of snow. It's just a bit wet, de icing is available but not needed.
Rwy 23 in use and the weather is good with light winds and excellent vis.
ANZ operating as normal today with maybe slight delays.

So what's the real reason QF cancel? Short of aircraft with JQ machines grounded?
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 02:41   #2 (permalink)
 
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Won't even get a mention on the news now gillard and co. are rabbiting on.
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 02:58   #3 (permalink)
 
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I see AirNZ flights from Sydney and Brisbane also cancelled.
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 03:55   #4 (permalink)
 
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Just saw an ANZ 737 depart off RWY 23. Raining here in the town, no contamination at his level now. Cloud base about 1500' and vis 5 km+ over Queenstown city, better toward the field.
Anyone know the landing minima for the RNP?

Another Jet just departed.
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 03:57   #5 (permalink)
 
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I guess if you "sight" bad weather, you probably shouldn't fly into it.
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 04:22   #6 (permalink)
 
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about 400 feet AGL and 4000 meters viz on the RNP AR approach
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 09:38   #7 (permalink)
 
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It was indeed weather concerns. From the horses mouth.

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Old 11th Jul 2011, 12:25   #8 (permalink)
 
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"Sighting"
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 05:05   #9 (permalink)
 
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Can't blame him too much for his spelling. He is probably, after all, one of those QN bugsmasher pilots.
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Old 12th Jul 2011, 20:19   #10 (permalink)
 
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Thats not Qantas, thats Jit Connect bro, ewe's guys have git it all wrong.

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Old 13th Jul 2011, 07:56   #11 (permalink)
 
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Flew in from Vancouver on Sunday morning to discover that Air NZ also cancelled flights to Queenstown.

Had to overnight in Auckland at the airline's expense.

The new Novotel near the international terminal is very nice but I really just wanted to get home.
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 09:07   #12 (permalink)
 
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On Track, that sucks that you couldn't get home, but it really is out of Bill's hands under these circumstances. The Volcanic ish is the volcanic ish, ewe's guys need to be safe when travelling around the land of the long haired lamb.

Safety before schedule hay bro.
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 09:08   #13 (permalink)
 
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Thats not Qantas, thats Jit Connect bro, ewe's guys have git it all wrong.
SYD-ZQN is operatered by QF Mainline not Jet Connect
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 18:53   #14 (permalink)
 
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Ero-plano, my flight AKL-ZQN was cancelled "because of weather" -- volcanic ash had nothing to do with it.

When I arrived the next day it didn't appear there'd been much of a snowfall at all -- not as much as the day after I arrived -- but I don't know what the cloud base and visibility were like on Sunday.
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 20:12   #15 (permalink)
 
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Bit of a nothing thread really.
Two carriers , both with a fair bit of experience decided not to go in based on weather forecasts and then that night the snowfall was significant enough to make the papers.
Is the point of the thread that the weather seemed good enough to operate to a 206 pilot based in NZQN?
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Old 13th Jul 2011, 21:22   #16 (permalink)
 
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Flew in from Vancouver on Sunday morning to discover that Air NZ also cancelled flights to Queenstown.

Had to overnight in Auckland at the airline's expense.

The new Novotel near the international terminal is very nice but I really just wanted to get home.
Unfortunately they have closed the other thread on why "you hate NZAA"

If you want to avoid NZAA why don't you choose an alternative route. If you don't like AirNZ why don't you choose an alternative airline. It's called consumer choice.

Better still make a compliant with the airline in question, I am pretty sure their customer service people don't use PPRuNe as a platform to deal with customer complaints.
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Old 14th Jul 2011, 05:11   #17 (permalink)
 
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Framer: I'm not sure if you're referring to me but I'm not a 206 Pilot!!

( oh, and the snow fall was Sat night and the flts cancelled Sun )

This is a bit of a nothing thread, you're correct there!!

I was there and was amazed that all QF and 2 ANZ flights were canceled, the weather was quite good most of Sunday up to about 1500 when rain moved back in BUT the vis was over 5 km's and the base at least 1500', enough to allow ops and indeed ANZ did fly during the day with 737's and A320's and an ATR 72.

If this is bad weather then we'd better send an email to our European and Canadian friends that routinely fly in this kind of terrain and weather without problems. Sure it may have been close to the minima but isn't that why alternates are carried?? NZCH is only 30 mins away and the weather there was ok.

At the end of the day I was amazed QF canceled, I was at the airport plane spotting ( as you do on holidays, its a beautiful place and makes for some good photos!! ) and the weather actuals were quite good. Snow on the ground, all movement areas clear ( but wet ) the sun was shining with light winds and scattered Sc.

They should have at least flown down and had a look.

My point on the day was, are QF using the forecast weather as an excuse? short of Aircraft due JQ grounding? looking for excuses to cancel QF intl ops?
Trying to make the loss bigger?

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