Letter to Geoffrey Thomas (Aviation expert)
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Just to get back to the opening post in this saga. At the risk of saying that the average lame is starting to whinge about being overworked and underpaid even more that the average airline pilot.... Just exactly how much should you guys get paid then.....assuming that are as poorly done by as you claim.
What is fair appropriate pay for a qantas lame then?
Just stick to the cash and leave the tragedy of your sad and lonely wife out of it. Even though it is amusing to hear that she lays awake at night, sobbing into her pillow as her enslaved hubby works through the cold winters night, fingers numbed by the coldness that only comes from being underpaid on $100k a year. Children, eyes rimmed with tears as they sit, fatherless, on christmas morning and open the meager presents that such a minimum wage can afford.
I think the reality is that wifey is sleeping quite well which you are on nights as she gets a break from the bleating and complaining.
Anyway - name your price boys! What is fair pay?
What is fair appropriate pay for a qantas lame then?
Just stick to the cash and leave the tragedy of your sad and lonely wife out of it. Even though it is amusing to hear that she lays awake at night, sobbing into her pillow as her enslaved hubby works through the cold winters night, fingers numbed by the coldness that only comes from being underpaid on $100k a year. Children, eyes rimmed with tears as they sit, fatherless, on christmas morning and open the meager presents that such a minimum wage can afford.
I think the reality is that wifey is sleeping quite well which you are on nights as she gets a break from the bleating and complaining.
Anyway - name your price boys! What is fair pay?
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To get your money deprived minds thinking, from looking at other pilot forums, qantas and jetstar pilots will stop their complaining if they get paid $300k a year to only fly about 120 hours a year, only during the day, nothing before 8.00am, nothing after about 7.30pm, maximum of 3 days work a week, plus free family (first class) and their choice of fleet, seniority, base and guaranteed birthdays and public holidays off.
You guys are worth at least that!!!! Ue it as a base, double it and add ten percent!
You guys are worth at least that!!!! Ue it as a base, double it and add ten percent!
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wow!!! who do you work for Victor two??? A manager no doubt, I bet you are very popular.
I don't work for Qantas, I work for a much smaller operator and I can tell you that would not go to Qantas because they don't pay enough!!
I don't work for Qantas, I work for a much smaller operator and I can tell you that would not go to Qantas because they don't pay enough!!
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Hey victor, what happened? Microsoft Flight Sim crashed, did it? Taking some time out while it reboots?
Who said anything about pushing for a $300000 salary? Who's whining about work being too hard? Who even mentioned the missus?
Now, you haven't been believing all the spin that management has been pushing? Surely, you're not that gullible?
Ok, I'll keep this simple, so that even you can understand...
The pilots and engineers are pushing for a job security clause... It's not a guarantee of employment! It is, however, a clause that will stop the company offshoring our work!
Now, I think that's as simple an explaination as I can post... Any simpler and I'll have to get in touch with the Sesame Street team.
Todays post was brought to you by the letters D & H and by the number 1...
Who said anything about pushing for a $300000 salary? Who's whining about work being too hard? Who even mentioned the missus?
Now, you haven't been believing all the spin that management has been pushing? Surely, you're not that gullible?
Ok, I'll keep this simple, so that even you can understand...
The pilots and engineers are pushing for a job security clause... It's not a guarantee of employment! It is, however, a clause that will stop the company offshoring our work!
Now, I think that's as simple an explaination as I can post... Any simpler and I'll have to get in touch with the Sesame Street team.
Todays post was brought to you by the letters D & H and by the number 1...
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Ah sesame street......is there nothing it didn't teach us?
ONE management troll.. MWAHAHAHAHAH!
TWO management trolls...MWAHAHAHAHAH!!!
etc...
ONE management troll.. MWAHAHAHAHAH!
TWO management trolls...MWAHAHAHAHAH!!!
etc...
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Those who can; do.
Those who can't, become managers.
It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the dribble being spouted by certain posters belies the fact that they have absolutely NFI of what LAME's do.
Those who can't, become managers.
It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the dribble being spouted by certain posters belies the fact that they have absolutely NFI of what LAME's do.
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Originally Posted by Brian Burke
Geoff's ONLY job within the Aviation Industry (excluding Journo work) was with MMA between 1970-1972 where he was employed as a 'Dispatch Officer'...
Originally Posted by Brian Burke
Woops, don't tell them at Q, they will put him on the board.
ST
Lufthansa Technic has problems
Looks like it's not just the Aussie ALEA who think this joint is not "worlds best practice".
When is your reply coming GT?
Repairer of Qantas planes 'has problems'
When is your reply coming GT?
Repairer of Qantas planes 'has problems'
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GT up to his old tricks.
a small piece from within a recent article
However, the problem for the pilots and QF is that Australians in increasing numbers are turning their backs on the airline. QF’s share of international traffic has slumped from 40.3% in 1995 to just 18.5% last year, with Jetstar accounting for 8%. Low-cost airlines, including Jetstar, now account for 19.5% of traffic into and out of Australia.
Pax numbers 97-18606000
98-18865000
99-19236000
00-20485000
01-22147000
02-27128000
03-28884000
04-30076000
05-32658000
06-34075000
07-36449000
08-38631000
09-38438000
10-41428000
Another example of poor reporting.
a small piece from within a recent article
However, the problem for the pilots and QF is that Australians in increasing numbers are turning their backs on the airline. QF’s share of international traffic has slumped from 40.3% in 1995 to just 18.5% last year, with Jetstar accounting for 8%. Low-cost airlines, including Jetstar, now account for 19.5% of traffic into and out of Australia.
Pax numbers 97-18606000
98-18865000
99-19236000
00-20485000
01-22147000
02-27128000
03-28884000
04-30076000
05-32658000
06-34075000
07-36449000
08-38631000
09-38438000
10-41428000
Another example of poor reporting.
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Is there any way we can split that into International traffic? I know they are saying that there share has dropped but I suspect the level of traffic has at least doubled making their pax numbers higher each year. Is thee any way we can find that out?
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lame1:
The phrase "Poor journalism" does not even come close! - its such a shame that GT was not the aviation writer for News of the World.
What we can hope for is some intellegent and articulate scrutiny of pax numbers, yeilds & moreover accounting revenues and expenses when the 24 Aug plan is revealed............(emphasis on the term hope)
AT
The phrase "Poor journalism" does not even come close! - its such a shame that GT was not the aviation writer for News of the World.
What we can hope for is some intellegent and articulate scrutiny of pax numbers, yeilds & moreover accounting revenues and expenses when the 24 Aug plan is revealed............(emphasis on the term hope)
AT