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Old 14th Mar 2011, 02:16   #1 (permalink)
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jQ A330 on ground OOL

JQ cabin crew refused to staff A330 this morning OOL to Japan, and who can blame them. I can see the A/C still there, nothing been reported, anyone know?
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JQ11 GOLD COAST TO TOKYO (NARITA), DEPARTING MONDAY, 14 MARCH 2011 shows cancelled on JQ . Sorry no other info
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 02:45   #3 (permalink)
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Brave if true. DFAT says Japan is OK but to defer non essential travel. QF says it's OK- and let's be honest, they've proven recently that they don't mind pulling the pin if they have doubts and given the recent loads they'd probably be thrilled to not have to fly a half full jumbo to/from Japan. There is no risk to anyone in Narita.

The nuclear risk whilst real for those working at the power plants affected isn't really a big deal for the rest of Japan- unless you're a journo looking for a doomsday story.

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----slightly off-topic but I understand that a ½Star A330 service between SIN and MEL was cancelled yesterday. JQ may not be travelling too well, earthquakes etc notwithstanding?
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 03:23   #5 (permalink)
 
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Sorry Keg but I tend to agree with the cabin crew, I would not flying to Narita at the moment. Yes the radiation risk is low, but do you really want to be landing and staying at a hotel which is within 200km of a possible full meltdown. Also more possible aftershocks on the way. It just isn't worth the risk. Tea and biccies with the chief pilot sure, but if you refuse to fly I can't see them doing much to you.
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Do they need to overnight in Japan?

Where they rostered to overnight?
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 03:40   #7 (permalink)
 
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They have less than 90mins on the ground in NRT but that would still make it a 21hr duty if they were not to overnight. I have heard of Asian crew doing these long hours before though.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 03:45   #8 (permalink)
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I live just to the south of the airport, with a good view of runway and terminals. And she is still sitting there, no engineers. Good luck to the cabin crew if they took that stand, they have every right. I hope the Pilots consider their own health and support them. How much truth is coming out of Japan? If you get crook or injured neither JQ or QF will give a continental. AIPA you should be seriously looking at this.
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In view of the news now coming through at 1400EDST, they may have made the correct decision but perhaps for the wrong reason (emotion-based).
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2.05pm There are serious concerns of a complete nuclear meltdown after the explosion in the Fukushima Number 3 reactor.

Read more: Live updates: Nuclear emergency declared in earthquake-struck Japan | News.com.au
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Just a thought. What about those poor passengers who need to get home to their families and search for children?
I'm rostered to NRT. CX is operating 13 flts a day to NRT since saturday.
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40Degrees, are they shuttles or overnights? There are also operational risks with Guam/Saipan as the DP ports (Tsunami) inbound from the south. There is a long time of exposure to the the possibility of all your available airfields becoming unavailable.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 04:43   #13 (permalink)
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So no one's read the link then?
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every Hombre for himself as far as this little black duck is concerned.... I don't get paid enuf to be a charity pilot
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Yes read it, and although the article suggests risks to be extremely low, given the choice I would choose abstenance every time as the situation is just too unstable over there at the moment and the story changes hour to hour.

The effect of the chenobyl fallout many years ago still affects many. Many people are ignorant of the subject of nuclear energy-myself included, I will leave that to the scientists!!

I think that the employer Jetstar should provide the facts about the risks (if indeed it did that) but the choice of whether you expose yourself to any risk has to lie with the individual. Think I would rather face a disciplinary panel that take the risk.

What I am suggesting is that it is a personal decision in my opinion.

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Old 14th Mar 2011, 05:02   #16 (permalink)
 
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Yes Keg, read the article. Also read news reports that major after shock is expected. Do you really want to be in the Mecure hotel if that occurs. As the articles states, there is little risk of radiation exposure. But are you really so sure of the situation that you would risk your health for a few dollars profit for Qantas.
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 05:09   #17 (permalink)
 
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Jetstarpilot, your pay is your fault!!

Some will be overnights
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Old 14th Mar 2011, 05:32   #18 (permalink)
 
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How much truth is coming out of Japan?
Loss of face could be a factor in how much is being reported. Its a possibility and something to consider.

Another one to consider is that ultimately the airline wouldn't give a damn if there was a radiation risk. All they want is bums on seats and ops normal.

Had it been a volcanic ash issue it may be different. Thats a threat to the machinery and thats a different story entirely.

Sorry guys I've got my cynical hat on today.
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The Volcano has erupted again - This morning (Australian Time)

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Old 14th Mar 2011, 05:39   #20 (permalink)
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Hey Jetstarpilot, great illustration of cause and effect!

Possibly the greatest post ever on PPRuNe!
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