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rodan 7th Dec 2012 21:52

Jobs at... Birmingham?
 
I've just noticed a slew of ATC jobs at Birmingham on Flight Global: ATCO; SATCO; ATSE; SATSE.

Have NATS lost the Brum contract?

Andy Mayes 7th Dec 2012 22:32

Interesting.

I'm pretty sure NATS HR usually does the hiring and firing for all their contracts.

What's going on I wonder?

Cuddles 8th Dec 2012 09:14

Sabre rattling perchance. When's the contract up?

Barnaby the Bear 8th Dec 2012 23:06

They are advertising for SATCO, ATCO's, ATCA's, Engineers the lot.
The wording suggests they are going to gauge the response, perhaps prior to renegotiations with NATS?


As a result, the airport is currently evaluating its Air Traffic Service provision for the future.

Birmingham Airport would therefore like to invite expressions of interest for the following potential posts within its Airfield Operations Department:

LXGB 10th Dec 2012 15:42

I wonder what they're paying. Adverts don't include salary details as often as they used to.

Standard Noise 11th Dec 2012 18:29

Rumour has it the SATCO post may have been filled.........

TCAS FAN 12th Dec 2012 14:54

........by an ex CAA Central Region ATS Inspector?

NDW 13th Dec 2012 12:07

Does anyone know what the ATCA requirements would be for Birmingham? Presumably the same as any other ATCA position?

Cheers

HoneyBunny 13th Dec 2012 21:24

Tcas fan...you're half correct.The person referred too has been employed by the airport to oversee the process of testing the market as the atc contract is soon up I believe.As well as asking the established providers,the airport are also considering in house atc.(if that option is a few quid cheaper,they'll do it!).

Spitoon 14th Dec 2012 05:02


The person referred too has been employed by the airport.....
Now there's a frightening thought! Just out of interest does anyone want to name the name?

Charlie23 14th Dec 2012 10:28

EGBB
 
The airport love NATS but not the price!! Hell of a risk to the airport if they go it alone but money talks! I think NATS will keep the contract but the price will have to be good. The new tower and runway extension make NATS the best solution imho. !

chevvron 14th Dec 2012 11:02

I tend to agree; whatever others may claim, NATS produces the best controllers, but they do tend to try to make excessive profits on their airport contracts.

2 sheds 14th Dec 2012 11:31


NATS produces the best controllers
That is fairly dismissive of the others, n'est-ce pas?

2 s

HoneyBunny 14th Dec 2012 11:32

I,m not sure,but if NATS have the contract to fit out the new ATC facility,then that may sway it for them.But they may have to do a deal with the airport to get to run it.

Barnaby the Bear 14th Dec 2012 17:07


whatever others may claim, NATS produces the best controllers
- Poppycock :ugh:

Regarding Birmingham leaving NATS, they would either have to employ another ANSP or go it alone, the later not that simple or cheap. :8

loubylou 14th Dec 2012 21:42

Won't the current staff be TUP'd (sp?) across to the new ANSP?

Louby

JustaFew 14th Dec 2012 22:03

If another ANSP is selected AND staff elect to continue with their posts, yes.

slowclimber 14th Dec 2012 22:59


The new tower and runway extension make NATS the best solution imho. !
Why? Would all other qualified UK ATCOs struggle with a new tower AND a runway extension?

It's about time that ATC positions at the busier UK airports became available to those of us who don't already work for NATS. Ab initio trainees get far more of a chance than qualified and experienced non-NATS ATCOs at the moment.


NATS produces the best controllers
So NATS people keep saying, but it's not what I've found...

TCAS FAN 18th Dec 2012 09:51

Chevvron

From what I last saw NSL (ie airports) is not making a lot of money, hence the periodic rumour of NATS selling off NSL.

As for producing the best controllers, would tend to agree in general but they need to operate as a team, something that I understand Birmingham has recently had serious problems with, resulting in a breakdown of Team Resource Management and NSL interevention to attempt resolution.

whitelighter 18th Dec 2012 18:19

NSL making money or not certainly depends on which aerodrome you are talking about.

Some contracts make healthy profits. Also NSL handle some of the overseas work


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