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Old 5th Oct 2017, 12:58   #1 (permalink)
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APP APS TWR

Hi, I am wondering is it possible to use APS and APP in the same TMA depending on surveillance data coverage? For example APP in the lower part and APS in upper area with radar data coverage.
And do you think that one could combine that with TWR ADI for CTR? Are there any regulations that would be against that?
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 08:55   #2 (permalink)


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Yep

I am not entirely sure if that is done here in the UK but I know that there is at least one unit in Sweden doing it. ATCO working ADI/APP/APS combined where (because of poor radar coverage) you apply procedural separation on traffic below 3000 ft.
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Where was it?
Does the ATCO need to transmit to a/c some info when APS ends and APP starts?
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Nothing beyond "radar service teminated", I imagine. Don't see why/how an ATCO's currently utilised rating endorsement would be of any interest to the airspace users.
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It's allowed, done because of poor radar coverage in some areas or below certain levels.
It's also possible that you are servicing multiple airports, but for the same reasons reported above, some are worked using surveillance and some not.
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Thanks, do you know maybe where is the ATS unit so there would be APP and APS done by one ATCO position?
Or maybe there is APP/APS/TWR one ATCO unit?
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Where was it?
Does the ATCO need to transmit to a/c some info when APS ends and APP starts?
Thanks a lot for your reply.
They do it at Jönköping Airport. As been mentioned I do not think that they have to say anything more than "Radar service terminated" or possibly nothing at all if it has been notified in any other way.
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