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Old 22nd May 2017, 19:09   #121 (permalink)
 
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Does anybody know if this is because at least one from Leeds has been offered a position outside the UK? It may be both but it may be neither.
I imagine it's because they are short staffed, regardless of the reason...
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Old 22nd May 2017, 19:23   #122 (permalink)
 
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Bravo, good egg.

It's The U.K. National ATCO shortage.........

And some of saw it coming 20+ years ago.
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Old 24th May 2017, 17:48   #123 (permalink)
 
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Bravo, good egg.

It's The U.K. National ATCO shortage.........

And some of saw it coming 20+ years ago.
It's like that everywhere. Just politics.. nothing to do with (good) management.
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Old 10th Jun 2017, 11:33   #124 (permalink)
 
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Old 10th Jun 2017, 14:56   #125 (permalink)
 
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It's like that everywhere. Just politics.. nothing to do with (good) management.
Back in the days of ATCO Cadet Courses, NATS would start 3 intakes per year, then found (mid 70s) that they were training too many so 'held' some intakes. What happens 5 years later? The 'glut'of older controllers, mostly ex wartime aircrew, suddenly began retiring at the same time and hey presto there was a shortage.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 10:55   #126 (permalink)
 
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The CAA Oberon report
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33...l_Redacted.pdf

thinks that it was reasonable that NATS could not predict that events would materialise and combine



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Old 11th Jul 2017, 11:48   #127 (permalink)
 
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Yes they could not have forseen that pleading poverty over pay rises while making record profits and paying very large dividends would result in bad industrial relations and lead to a low overtime take up rate...
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 18:33   #128 (permalink)
 
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The CAA Oberon report
https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33...l_Redacted.pdf

thinks that it was reasonable that NATS could not predict that events would materialise and combine



I hope they've taken steps to restock their whitewash supplies.
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Old 4th Aug 2017, 11:14   #129 (permalink)
 
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Wycombe Air Park - ADV/ADI 2 x vacancies SATCO and ATCO start date asap.
Validated ratings ideally required for SATCO and 'must have' for ATCO.
ATCO must ideally have Met Obs and OJTI too; SATCO must ideally have OJTI and Met Obs too.

Another airport pending needs APP ratings too.

e-mail atc@safeskys.co.uk for further details

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Old 5th Aug 2017, 06:15   #130 (permalink)
 
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Humberside
Isle of Man
Yeovil
Hawarden
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 07:01   #131 (permalink)
 
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Humberside
Isle of Man
Yeovil
Hawarden
Haven't seen an advert for Yeovil; thought it had gone AFIS.
Wasn't Hawarden a SERCO unit or did that change?
I'm sure NATS would like to get the contracts for Humberside and IOM; wonder if they're trying?
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Haven't seen an advert for Yeovil; thought it had gone AFIS.
Wasn't Hawarden a SERCO unit or did that change?
Hawarden was Serco, no idea now. As for Yeovil, don't know either but they were advertising, just posting what vacancies I find. And on that note...

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Yeovil looking for a ATCO with ADI + APP with Ex- Mil experience They do have a AFISO though.
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Gibraltar looking for an ADI, APS rated ATCO very soon.
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Old 3rd Sep 2017, 13:23   #135 (permalink)
 
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Gibraltar looking for an ADI, APS rated ATCO very soon.
Don't tempt me, I'm supposed to be retired.
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Old 3rd Sep 2017, 20:23   #136 (permalink)
 
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Don't tempt me, I'm supposed to be retired.
Does the position with SafeSkys not take your fancy?
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Does the position with SafeSkys not take your fancy?
Operating 3 parallel runways plus helicopters at my age?
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Does the position with SafeSkys not take your fancy?
Ahh Safeskys. I self funded my ADI license a few years ago. I was desperate for a job after completing my course so enquired about a vacancy they had.

The job market was very different at the time and I can vividly remember how rude the guy who responded was. A simple thanks but no thanks would have done.

I'm now a fully valid dual rated ATCO and would never work for them.
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Old 4th Sep 2017, 08:41   #139 (permalink)
 
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CFAC - did you perhaps call someone Dicky instead of Richard ? ;-) ;-)
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Vacancy

Vacancy at Prestwick:

http://www.glasgowprestwick.com/vaca...-officer-atco/

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