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Old 5th Feb 2014, 16:36
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CNATCS

Wonder if there is some elderly sould out there who can help me please? Purely for personal reasons I'm trying to list all the Controllers of the NATCS. I've only got as far as Geoffrey Stallibrass and AM Sir Ivor Broom. Any more please?
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Keith ? ex-LHR
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Not sure if he went that far?
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Give us a clue, HD, who or what are or were CNATCS and NATCS?
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Controller National Air Traffic Control Services and National Air Traffic Control Services.

Back in those days they had a civvy one year and an RAF chap the next.
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Ah, thanks. I was probably serving time in the Colonies for misdemeanours at the time.
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Thanks guys. Verna Woodruff was on my radar course. Nice lady but the last I heard she wasn't too well.

Any offers of RAF chaps?
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Air Vice Marshal Sir Laurence Frank Sinclair. The very first CNATCS.
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AVM Sir Ian Pedder. Took over as CNATCS in August 1981. Had a gorgeous PA - I remember drinking champagne out of her shoe in the bar at Eastern Radar one evening.
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Ian Pedder.. That's one name I was thinking of. A real, down to earth, gentleman. I was working Heathrow SVFR once when he visited, especially to look at SVFR problems. I was unaware but the Sup had told him my name. All I knew was this charming chap kneeling beside me (no room for an extra chair).... he put out his hand "Hello Brendan, I'm Ian Pedder". One of the nicest blokes I've met.
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Tom Stonor was CNATS when I went through CATC in the late 80s.
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Keith Williams?
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I remember Ian Pedder too. When the LTMA revision took place in the mid 70s, I fed him some details of the local press in the Amersham/Chesham area of Bucks. He phoned me personally to thank me.
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I remember having a long discussion with Sir Ian re. Licensing; it was most enlightening - also refreshing to have a VSO chat openly and at length with a mere minion!


NATCS/NATS ... was it in the '60s that they lost Control?
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Did Keith Mack hold the post in the mid 1980s?
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Chevvron. I'm not surprised. He was a decent man and somewhat different to another "Air Rank" person I had dealings with.......

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Keith Mack was CNATS about '85-86, about the time CAA thought they had too many ATCOs and trawled to see if anyone would be interested in redundancy.


Re Ian Pedder - my old Herc' nav' mate Jim Clark worked for him when he was an OO at HQ. This was before Jim became an ATCO and subsequently joined 'B' Watch at LATCC.


I remember Jim telling me that he was tasked with preparing a lot of paperwork on something like changes to airspace and he had a lot of angst and non co-operation from a snotty RAF Wg Cdr ATCO. Before the big meeting Pedder called Jim to his office and asked if everything was in order - Jim being an honest chap replied that it was apart from the lack of help from said Wg Cdr. At the start of the meeting Pedder stood up and looking pointedly at the RAF man, made a great show of thanking Mr Clark for his efforts. Top man!


Was Bill Semple CNATS about '97-98?
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Brian,
somewhere I still have the letter from 1985/'86. It was signed by John Page, who had been on my initial and final selection boards six years previously.
I think you are correct regarding Bill Semple, somewhere I still have his 'My Vision' brochure.
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