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Old 24th Jul 2016, 08:40
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Given the precision expected , I've often wondered why stop watches aren't mandatory at the air position. I certainly never saw them in use during my years in the uk
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Old 24th Jul 2016, 08:46
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It's a minimum of 120 seconds (must be in a Nats AIC somewhere) and, yes, the controller estimates the time to roll and rotate but its not rocket science as depending on the type departing anywhere from 25-45 seconds works well.

As wake generation is only considered to start upon rotation thats the time that it's based on. It wouldn't really be the same if you waited two minutes from the commencement of roll due to the take-off runs required for different types/destinations. Eg. a B773 to South America will need a lot more Rwy than a B77f with a light load going to Europe. With the known rotation time you have one less variable to consider and it's easier to be more accurate.
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Old 24th Jul 2016, 08:51
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The crew will be timing the 120/180 seconds Wake Vortex Separation on the stopwatch. I'd like a penny for every time I was told 'we need another x seconds'.
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Old 24th Jul 2016, 08:59
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Eric... The Tower positions were equipped with electronic clocks which counted the seconds. Maybe they don't have such luxuries nowadays.
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Old 24th Jul 2016, 09:17
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Oh yes, I think most towers have always had that. However, using TR's scenario for example , when the B773 rotates you hit the start button on a stop-watch, all you have to do then is wait for the required interval & away goes the next. No need for mental arithmetic, fiddling the minute - is 30 seconds the minute before or after, that sort of thing. Just one less thing to occupy your attention & let you keep your eyes on the outside world, not your desk :-)

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Old 4th Sep 2016, 05:59
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Eric, we have a timer on our ADC console in Melbourne. Some people use it, some don't.
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