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Old 23rd May 2017, 16:55   #21 (permalink)


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Any updated info?
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Old 10th Jun 2017, 20:36   #22 (permalink)


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Hi any information on the current Dubai Atc package, i would highly appreciate if you can PM me or email me
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Old 10th Jun 2017, 22:37   #23 (permalink)


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Hi any information on the current Dubai Atc package, i would highly appreciate if you can PM me or email me
So would I!!
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Old 5th Aug 2017, 18:09   #24 (permalink)
 
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Hi,
I would also appreciate if anyone is able to pm me the current Dubai twr package.
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Old 15th Aug 2017, 06:52   #25 (permalink)
 
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Hi, would be very grateful If anybody could send through the current Dubai and Qatar twr packages. Would like to know what I am in for before making contact and possibly wasting everyone's time. Thanks.
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 00:20   #26 (permalink)
 
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At the risk of attracting heavy GAL inspired flak, could someone pm through the conditions at AUH?
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 10:10   #27 (permalink)
 
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Any Italians guys on DXB or ME?

Hi to every one. According the post title: any italians ATCO works in DXB or other locations in ME?
I'm pretty interested about working there...
Please PM me
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Old 20th Aug 2017, 09:15   #28 (permalink)
 
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Hi, if anyone could send me any details to contact etc would be much appreciated
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 03:48   #29 (permalink)
 
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https://jobs.flightglobal.com/jobs/a...east/#browsing
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 14:47   #30 (permalink)
 
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So both DANS and Serco are advertising for Dubai TWR & APP Controllers... which entity is better to work for? Much/ any difference in T&Cs?
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Old 24th Aug 2017, 17:38   #31 (permalink)
 
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I'm also interested in knowing the package for ME.

Please PM me if you know the package for either DXB/DWC, AUH, BAH or DOH. Thanks in advance!
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 16:39   #32 (permalink)
 
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Please PM me if you know the package for either DXB/DWC, AUH, BAH or DOH. Thanks in advance!
(not asking for much, are ya ... )

Best way to get this info is to APPLY . . . . if they want you , you will get direct word on what they offer.
If you don't like what you hear, say "thanks but no thanks" . . . am positive they hear that more than you might think.

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Old 16th Sep 2017, 11:02   #33 (permalink)


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a word of waring before considering certain contracts!

Dear esteemed colleagues,
this is just a friendly word of advice to any of you out there who are toying with the idea of actually going to work for THE WORST ANS provider I've EVER had the unlucky privilege to encounter( this is of course only my and 27 other escapees opinions but backed with an accumulated experience of over 100 years, (both resignations and abscondee's in the last 9months ...!)
It's not being written to vent or as some kind of retribution ......purely as a fact based word of warning to anyone seeking a position in the sandpit.( choose wisely ....this provider has advertised recently....with a so called "competitive package" roughly translated, means......it's still THE WORST available , but we now want you to commit to a term of 2 years with us for the privledge of receiving the pay rise you should have had kanyway!! AND agree to no increment payments, whilst others do get them! For the remainder of your contract.
It is however , very near one of the best contracts available and a major tourist/transit hub.
So just to summarise in a short table:-
Looking for a job in the sandpit..........
YES.
Choose 1 of the other ( and FAR FAR better !) contracts

then congratulate yourself, and look forward to:
Yearly pay increment
Yearly bonus.
Allowances without arguments and ON Time!
relatively stress free and happy
OR
The almost Anonymous Worst ANSP,
and look forward to

No pay increments.
NO yearly bonus(unless.
Your management)
No Leave for an average
9 months and then NOT when
You Request it.
STRESS.
Sleepless nights
Bullying
Intimidation
Living nightmare

SERIOUSLY.......are you mad???

Anyway.......I hope you get the picture.....and As I said....it's not for any retribution.....purely facts to digest....and help make an educated decision. If you still decide to wear the rose tints .......DONT SAY YOU WERN'T WARNED!!!!
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 04:53   #34 (permalink)
 
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The almost Anonymous Worst ANSP,
and look forward to

No pay increments.
NO yearly bonus(unless.
Your management)
No Leave for an average
9 months and then NOT when
You Request it.
STRESS.
Sleepless nights
Bullying
Intimidation
Living nightmare
Any chance youd be willing to elaborate with a few cheeky figures???
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:43   #35 (permalink)
 
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Tks for the live info, Rotary 777!

I couldn't understand why the ANSP treats controllers like that cause their country has a lot of oil and money :-(

Bullying, intimidation ...
I couldn't even imagine what's going on there!

So Sorry to hear that!!!
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:55   #36 (permalink)


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Takeit from someone who has seen the place in the sun descend into the situationwhere it is now. Itís terrible, its sad and its a professional disgrace.. On the plus side, it makes for a great case study in "How to totally ruin a good business through toxic leadership, nepotism and racism"


Totake a reasonably good place to work, with imperfect, but "human"management and turn it into a place that is losing staff faster than anyone wouldhave thought possible, things are beyond bad.


Thelocals in charge are incompetent, arrogant and frankly itís a bit of a crimethat they are in control of the business. What I am most amazed about is thatthe clear thinking intelligent leaders at the very top of the UAE aviationbusiness is not taking decisive action before the embarrassment of the currentreality has direct financial impact on the whole Emirate. Time will tell how this ends, but I dont see it going well for the current "leaders"........

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Old 18th Sep 2017, 19:00   #37 (permalink)
 
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Abu Dhabi

Hi, could anybody please PM me any information on Salary, living arrangements and life in Abu Dhabi? Thanks in advance.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 07:22   #38 (permalink)


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Sandy viper......couldn't agree more!!
Maggie Island.........its no secret, Doha has best package and conditions at the mo, ...then Dubai/DWC and bottom of the pile....AD. Putting aside the the complete turmoil and staffing crisis at the moment, the company have tried to stop the exodus, and have offered a 5 K rise for a 2 years handcuffs. ( however the genius that came up with it forgot to take into account that the staff eligible for it would actually be on more now had the promised increments been honoured.........so in effect it's actually a pay cut that is being offered, rather insulting and usual management tactic of the present company( how can we screw over the grass roots staff and make it look like we are doing them a favour)

Atclinds........I assume ur still considering a position.....even after the latest info...?
There's ALWAYS one........good luck!!
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 14:19   #39 (permalink)
 
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I have heard that 19 approach controllers have left or are in the process of leaving.

There is talk of leave being cancelled and compulsory overtime being enforced.

What is happening out there? Where are all these people going, and maybe some examples of the issues which are making people leave.
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 21:49   #40 (permalink)
 
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I have heard that 19 approach controllers have left or are in the process of leaving.

There is talk of leave being cancelled and compulsory overtime being enforced.

What is happening out there? Where are all these people going, and maybe some examples of the issues which are making people leave.
Cancelling leave and compulsory overtime will only make matters worse, especially if people have an option. Most of Europe is short of atcos at the moment area and approach. Canada has been actively recruiting too. If they carry on with their head in the sand there will be no one left. Just like ryanair
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