ATC Work Experience
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ATC Work Experience
Hey All,
I am currently in my first year of sixth form and I'm quite interested in becoming an ATCO after leaving school, through NATS, however I've looked around a lot but haven't found anything about whether they allow people (like myself) to do work experience with them. Does anyone know how I could get myself a placement, and who I would need to speak to?
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I am currently in my first year of sixth form and I'm quite interested in becoming an ATCO after leaving school, through NATS, however I've looked around a lot but haven't found anything about whether they allow people (like myself) to do work experience with them. Does anyone know how I could get myself a placement, and who I would need to speak to?
Thanks
NATS en-route allow work experience at Swanwick and Prestwick but I'm not sure about airports nowadays; we certainly used to get WE students at Farnborough.
Effectively you're only going to be able to participate in assistant duties as controlling requires training, licensing and medical.
If you live near a non-NATS airport, why not get your WE liaison person to try them?
Effectively you're only going to be able to participate in assistant duties as controlling requires training, licensing and medical.
If you live near a non-NATS airport, why not get your WE liaison person to try them?
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I'd take a bet that a white pass (temporary escorted) will be required.
I am not ATC though, and have no idea whether an airport work experience would be allowed by NATS or other operator.
I am not ATC though, and have no idea whether an airport work experience would be allowed by NATS or other operator.
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Hi thanks for your responses,
I sent an email into NATS simply asking if I could do some WE at Swanwick, even if it just meant I could sit next to a controller and listen in , which I would be chuffed with, and they said they don't offer Work experience at the moment. are there any controllers willing to let me come along and have a look ?
I sent an email into NATS simply asking if I could do some WE at Swanwick, even if it just meant I could sit next to a controller and listen in , which I would be chuffed with, and they said they don't offer Work experience at the moment. are there any controllers willing to let me come along and have a look ?
If you're not able to get a placement with civvy ATC, you could always try the RAF.
Probably would help if you were in the Air Cadets and showed a genuine interest in joining the RAF, but it can't hurt to try, the worst they'll say is no.
Best bet is to try and get some contact details for the work experience coordinator at your local RAF station and see if you can arrange something.
Where are you located?
Probably would help if you were in the Air Cadets and showed a genuine interest in joining the RAF, but it can't hurt to try, the worst they'll say is no.
Best bet is to try and get some contact details for the work experience coordinator at your local RAF station and see if you can arrange something.
Where are you located?
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I'm sad to report that my son tells me visitors are no longer allowed to sit with controllers when they are plugged-in. Before I get corrected by other posters here, I assume that ruling does not apply to airline pilots making sponsored visits.
Sadly a sign of the times we live-in, where everyone is frightened of consequences!
Sadly a sign of the times we live-in, where everyone is frightened of consequences!
I'm sad to report that my son tells me visitors are no longer allowed to sit with controllers when they are plugged-in. Before I get corrected by other posters here, I assume that ruling does not apply to airline pilots making sponsored visits.
Sadly a sign of the times we live-in, where everyone is frightened of consequences!
Sadly a sign of the times we live-in, where everyone is frightened of consequences!
Heathrow incident
TC I don't think that is the reason. I left Boscombe on posting to Heathrow in Nov' 86 just after the incident, and the only person stopping visitors plugging in was the manager of the 'affected' watch, dear old Tom Toy.
I joined his watch in early '89 and he was still adamant that no-one could have a visitor plugged in with them. After he left to go to TC in early '91 our watch allowed visitors and I can recall several occasions when I had non-aviation people with me right up until my early retirement in 2000.
My son when he showed an interest in joining ATC in '95, plugged in with a mate on TC and then another in En-Route at LATCC, and he himself has offered to show people around until well into this century. It does seem to be a fairly recent blanket restriction.
I joined his watch in early '89 and he was still adamant that no-one could have a visitor plugged in with them. After he left to go to TC in early '91 our watch allowed visitors and I can recall several occasions when I had non-aviation people with me right up until my early retirement in 2000.
My son when he showed an interest in joining ATC in '95, plugged in with a mate on TC and then another in En-Route at LATCC, and he himself has offered to show people around until well into this century. It does seem to be a fairly recent blanket restriction.
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Thanks for asking Brian, I appreciate it!
I'm not sure who to really message about the RAF, i'm not in cadets and I live 20 or so miles north west of Heathrow, If that helps
I'm not sure who to really message about the RAF, i'm not in cadets and I live 20 or so miles north west of Heathrow, If that helps
How can young people get a taste for a career if this continues to happen?
The current company I work for (nowt to do with aviation) also adopts the no work experience policy. It's not business critical so it gets **** canned. The real reason is probably because it takes up too much of someone's time to organise.
I remember many years ago going to West Drayton for the day with the brother of my best mate at the time who was a controller. I worked in the aircraft industry but had no experience of ATC at all. I ended up re-negotiating agreed slot times with a number of different airlines. Bizarre wasn't the word!
The current company I work for (nowt to do with aviation) also adopts the no work experience policy. It's not business critical so it gets **** canned. The real reason is probably because it takes up too much of someone's time to organise.
I remember many years ago going to West Drayton for the day with the brother of my best mate at the time who was a controller. I worked in the aircraft industry but had no experience of ATC at all. I ended up re-negotiating agreed slot times with a number of different airlines. Bizarre wasn't the word!
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It certainly is a shame Swanick don't allow work experience people to have a look anymore. LHR tower I can understand saying no, but ACC seems the perfect opportunity for someone with an interest to gain some insight.
I spent a week at MAN ACC during mid 90s. Got to sit and listen in at every position, in the tower, downstairs with the approach controllers, amazing stuff. It was the final push that confirmed I wanted a career in aviation, no matter what. All organised by a family friend who was a controller there, no security red tape, just bring a passport, listen to the briefing from the SATCO, use a bit of common sense and shadow an ATCO for the day. It's a real shame all that is no longer possible.
I spent a week at MAN ACC during mid 90s. Got to sit and listen in at every position, in the tower, downstairs with the approach controllers, amazing stuff. It was the final push that confirmed I wanted a career in aviation, no matter what. All organised by a family friend who was a controller there, no security red tape, just bring a passport, listen to the briefing from the SATCO, use a bit of common sense and shadow an ATCO for the day. It's a real shame all that is no longer possible.
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Yeah, I'm going to get in contact with Wycombe and see what they say.
It is a shame I can't just plug in next to a controller and listen in, but I can understand why.
Thanks for the help all!
It is a shame I can't just plug in next to a controller and listen in, but I can understand why.
Thanks for the help all!
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Hello
When I was in 6th Year (Scottish 6th Form) I emailed RAF Prestwick to see if they could offer me work experience. Unfortunatly they were unable to however did offer me a days visit to Prestwick Centre (Owned by NATS where the Civi's and Military used to work). I was able to sit in on Scottish Mil sectors and had a good chat to lots of the RAF guys and the NATS staff. Subsiquently I've given up on the whole controlling thing and become a mere tels (ATC) Engineer but definitely drop RAF Northolt an email explaining your situation.
Feel free to PM me if you need a hand.
Not an ATCO but still in the right company
Feel free to PM me if you need a hand.
Not an ATCO but still in the right company
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Hello all,
Just and update, I'm still looking for work experience, I've spoken to a few airfields who said they can't let me do work experience due to "operational reasons"
Thanks for the help
Just and update, I'm still looking for work experience, I've spoken to a few airfields who said they can't let me do work experience due to "operational reasons"
Thanks for the help
