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Old 10th Nov 2015, 16:08
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Are you an Approach Procedure Designer (APD) authorised by the UK CAA

As part of a wind farm project I am undertaking I need advice from an Approach Procedure Designer (APD) authorised by the UK CAA. Does anyone know one ?

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Lots of them in Nats.

Procedure design - NATS
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NATS took over procedure design from CAA (DAP) about 10 years ago and also design procedures for MOD.
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Lady ATCO - check your PMs
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NATS took over procedure design from CAA (DAP) about 10 years ago and also design procedures for MOD.
And, presumably, for all of the aerodromes where NATS does not provide ATS....whether they want it or not. I think not, my good man.

LadyAtco, you will find what you need here.
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Can't people like Cyrrus help?

http://www.cyrrus.co.uk/airspacedesign.html
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And, presumably, for all of the aerodromes where NATS does not provide ATS....whether they want it or not. I think not, my good man.

LadyAtco, you will find what you need here.
I didn't seek to imply NATS did it for non NATS airfields, just that whereas ALL procedure design had been done by CAA and when they farmed it out, NATS established a section for this as well as for military airfields which, up until then, had been done by the RAF in a section at Northolt.
The question is, whereas the CAA can regulate NATS, who regulates these other companies? The Secretary of the UK Flight Safety Committee told me years ago that (for instance) Jeppesen designs were not regulated by anybody although this may have changed now.
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The CAA (SARG) regulates all the APDs extremely closely; an organisation doesn't get CAP 785 Approval without having gone through a very rigorous audit/approval process that is repeated periodically. Each individual design also has to be reviewed and Approved by SARG prior to promulgation in the UK AIP whomsoever produces it e.g. Jeppy.

I think the point you’re referring to is the reproduction of the charts - by the likes of Jeppy - in their Flight Information products that can be an interpretation of that promulgated in the UK AIP.

A bigger cause for concern in this RNAV/PBN world is the dearth of regulation applicable to the database coding houses.

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Chevvron, the CAA regulates all procedure design companies for the official, AIP plates. If third party companies then take that published data and supply it in a different format, to airlines for example in the form of EFBs, then that is not regulated by the CAA.
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