Mats pt one Nats ot non Nats
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Mats pt one Nats ot non Nats
Can any one in NATS confirm which version /issue /amendment of the Pt one they're using.
Apparently problems arose from the Feb issue where the quadrantal rule is no more , yet it is still in the AIP.
This according the our regulatory body has meant that there are two adaptations in use depending on Nats or non Nats.
Apparently problems arose from the Feb issue where the quadrantal rule is no more , yet it is still in the AIP.
This according the our regulatory body has meant that there are two adaptations in use depending on Nats or non Nats.
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Why should Nats have its own MATS Part 1? Nats is simply an ANSP.
Is this Sixth Edition, Amendment 1, 4 February 2015 not good enough for Nats?
Is this Sixth Edition, Amendment 1, 4 February 2015 not good enough for Nats?
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CAA Mats Part 1 Section 1 Chapter 4 6B now details the new rules and I haven't seen anything to say that this is now incorrect.
NATS doesn't have its own Mats Part 1, the whole UK should be using the CAA Mats Part 1 which Talkdownman's link will take you to.
NATS doesn't have its own Mats Part 1, the whole UK should be using the CAA Mats Part 1 which Talkdownman's link will take you to.
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If you go to Publications with Titles Containing : cap493 | Publications | About the CAA the current version is Sixth Edition, Ammendment 1 (4th February 2015). I can't find any communication from the CAA that suggests that version was withdrawn. Surely if that's the version the regulator lists then that's current.
NATS however took issue with some aspects of it and had an instruction to its controllers to continue to operate to the previous October 2014 version (they had consulted with, and had approval from the CAA to do this). This instruction even stated that other non-NATS agencies may be operating as per the February 2015 version.
Either way it's a mess.
NATS however took issue with some aspects of it and had an instruction to its controllers to continue to operate to the previous October 2014 version (they had consulted with, and had approval from the CAA to do this). This instruction even stated that other non-NATS agencies may be operating as per the February 2015 version.
Either way it's a mess.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBoxMeal
NATS however took issue with some aspects of it and had an instruction to its controllers to continue to operate to the previous October 2014 version
Does this mean compliance with regulations has now become optional…?
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It means that the regulations are not fit for purpose.
At the same time that the amended CAP493 came out, which mandated the use of the semi-circular rule above 3000', a separate exemption from SERA was published that required continued use of the quadrantal rule. The best part of a month later, the situation hasn't been resolved and these documents are both still current, both listed on the CAA website, in direct contradiction of each other.
At the same time that the amended CAP493 came out, which mandated the use of the semi-circular rule above 3000', a separate exemption from SERA was published that required continued use of the quadrantal rule. The best part of a month later, the situation hasn't been resolved and these documents are both still current, both listed on the CAA website, in direct contradiction of each other.
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Vive la difference
Well I have to say the whole situation regarding the changes where NATS do not accept the changes leaves a lot to be desired.
The fact that NATS units had the amendment withdrawn on the day of issue by NOTAM is certainly different perhaps this is the way to save paper and thus do away with supplementary instructions.
I think from tomorrow I shall adopt my own version first used 30 odd years ago. Would anybody care to join me
The fact that NATS units had the amendment withdrawn on the day of issue by NOTAM is certainly different perhaps this is the way to save paper and thus do away with supplementary instructions.
I think from tomorrow I shall adopt my own version first used 30 odd years ago. Would anybody care to join me
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On 2 April 2015 the UK will complete the move from quadrantal to semi circular cruising levels. This change affects pilots flying under instrument flight rules outside controlled airspace below flight level195, but higher than 3,000ft above mean sea level, as semicircular cruising levels have been used in controlled airspace for many years. The timescale for this change has been extended to allow a safe transition to the new arrangements.
CAA Head of Intelligence, Strategy and Policy, Padhraic Kelleher, said: “We welcome the very pragmatic approach that EASA and the Commission have taken. This means that as we draw the UK’s implementation of SERA to a close the UK’s position and the needs of our airspace users have been fully taken into account.”
Detailed information can be found on the CAA’s SERA web pages at Rules of the Air | Airspace Use & Rules | Operations and Safety.
For further media information contact the CAA Press Office on: 0207 453 6030. [email protected]
Notes to Editors
The CAA is the UK's specialist aviation regulator. It ensures the aviation industry meets the highest safety standards; protects consumers by making sure they have choice and value and are treated fairly; drives improvements in airlines and airports’ environmental performance and ensures industry manages security risks effectively.
CAA Head of Intelligence, Strategy and Policy, Padhraic Kelleher, said: “We welcome the very pragmatic approach that EASA and the Commission have taken. This means that as we draw the UK’s implementation of SERA to a close the UK’s position and the needs of our airspace users have been fully taken into account.”
Detailed information can be found on the CAA’s SERA web pages at Rules of the Air | Airspace Use & Rules | Operations and Safety.
For further media information contact the CAA Press Office on: 0207 453 6030. [email protected]
Notes to Editors
The CAA is the UK's specialist aviation regulator. It ensures the aviation industry meets the highest safety standards; protects consumers by making sure they have choice and value and are treated fairly; drives improvements in airlines and airports’ environmental performance and ensures industry manages security risks effectively.
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Almost Profesional
Unfortunately we cannot not go Back to the sorry ,behind the future ,sorry after the previous before the behind future ,well I guess you guess my drift.
