All London airspace closed
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Good work, once again, by the shop floor engineers to get things up and running so quickly. Often overlooked, they have probably had the worst of it when it comes to manpower reductions.
Glad I'm not in today... next few hours will be interesting with, I'd imagine, quite a few out-of-position flights to get back into normal
rotation.
Glad I'm not in today... next few hours will be interesting with, I'd imagine, quite a few out-of-position flights to get back into normal
rotation.
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Yep. And there's squadrons of 'em gathering around the Essex area, not to mention the BA B777 following the B747.
Now Radio 5 will have to find something else to prattle on about and Simon Calder can go back to his armchair!
Now Radio 5 will have to find something else to prattle on about and Simon Calder can go back to his armchair!
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Loved this on the BBC website:
'Disgruntled passengers'
Posted at 17:18
Josh Rasbash, a software engineer in the aviation business, has been on a delayed flight from Edinburgh to Brussels. He said: "I've been stuck on the plane for an hour and a half. Most passengers are disgruntled.
"You have to be extremely careful with managing a flight. You can't just let them land wherever. It needs to be carefully organised and managed so we don't hit each other in the air.
"It's Ryanair so I'm not expecting much."
'Disgruntled passengers'
Posted at 17:18
Josh Rasbash, a software engineer in the aviation business, has been on a delayed flight from Edinburgh to Brussels. He said: "I've been stuck on the plane for an hour and a half. Most passengers are disgruntled.
"You have to be extremely careful with managing a flight. You can't just let them land wherever. It needs to be carefully organised and managed so we don't hit each other in the air.
"It's Ryanair so I'm not expecting much."
Having listened to the BBC I was expecting carnage - sure there's lots of delays of less than 2 hours, but no cancellations at VS, very few at BA (and generally on high frequency European routes) and as for FR it looks like a drop in the ocean when compared with the Italian ATC strike. Serves me right for listening
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Southside Hangers (btw that should be hangars), just for your info, when airspace is declared "closed" that doesn't mean that all aircraft in said airspace will mysteriously disappear. You will of course see the traffic already co-ordinated/committed continue to operate. When the airspace is closed it basically means that the coordination of further traffic into that airspace will not be accepted until the restriction is lifted.
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just meant as a question...
have there been any rumors of a hack attack? I wouldn't believe them, but you all are on the other side of the pond from me.
AS you all know, we had an outage at chicago center a few months ago due to someone starting a fire in the com/computer room. took weeks to fix fully, work around did help things move slowly and no collisions.
AS you all know, we had an outage at chicago center a few months ago due to someone starting a fire in the com/computer room. took weeks to fix fully, work around did help things move slowly and no collisions.
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what atc computer system does swanwick control center use?
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i just read in the following article that the center has been plagued with problems, cost over runs, delays in commisioning and complaints by controllers
interesting:London Hit by Air Traffic Control Computer Failure - ABC News
interesting:London Hit by Air Traffic Control Computer Failure - ABC News
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Wrong question.
How will Heathrow or Gatwick with their nice shiny new runway(s) explain that nobody really thought about increasing the system capacity so the new runway, the reason all those hotels/listed buildings were demolished, can only operate at a few aircraft an hour and those come from movements that could easily have operated from the existing runways.
Yes - it could happen.
How will Heathrow or Gatwick with their nice shiny new runway(s) explain that nobody really thought about increasing the system capacity so the new runway, the reason all those hotels/listed buildings were demolished, can only operate at a few aircraft an hour and those come from movements that could easily have operated from the existing runways.
Yes - it could happen.
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Which is what is SUPPOSED to happen. A bit like having 40 years flawless service...one midair and they never shut up about it.
The system seems to have a bit of a weak link , and that link seems to be in the computing. What platitudes or excuses will be offered this time?
Will NATS offer compensation for the ATC induced delays?
Good luck to everyone sorting that mess out.
But all those lovely 'journos' and media types will focus on these 2 days, rather than all the others, on each of which about 7000 aeros have moved about flawlessly.
The system seems to have a bit of a weak link , and that link seems to be in the computing. What platitudes or excuses will be offered this time?
Will NATS offer compensation for the ATC induced delays?
Good luck to everyone sorting that mess out.