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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 11:05
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Well, it makes up for losing LGW & Brum!

NATS win Wattisham

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If I was at the college now I'd be afraid.......VERY afraid!!!!
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Lol! I'm sure it's not that bad!
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Perhaps they should be. I'd be surprised if this was a normal NSL contract with the associated terms and conditions...
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EGUW ACP next?
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Are they going to keep the Aberporth Ranges contract, a rival bidder is indicating a decision around 1 October, any news?
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Not sure anyone at the college (if there is anyone there these days!) has much to fear....don't think we'll be providing ATCOs
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Not sure we've lost Gatwick just yet. Still playing in extra time I think.
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working side by side with civilian controllers at NATS’ two control centres – in Swanwick, Hampshire and Prestwick, Ayrshire
errr........????
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Interesting - wonder if it's something of a cost saving exercise for the military to start relying more on Civil controllers... I don't know the history of Aberporth so well but this is certainly a deliberate change from the norm!
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Wattisham (since the AAC moved in), Middle Wallop and Netheravon have long, if not always, been contracted to civil controllers, but the Army has never had an ATC branch. St Athan is also civil now, but it's a maintenance base only. I wouldn't have thought the RAF or RN would outsource ATC, but you never know...
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I wouldn't have thought the RAF or RN would outsource ATC, but you never know...
RAF Woodvale and RAF Barkston Heath have had civil ATCOs for many years.
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RAF Wyton as well.
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Have NATS really lost Birmingham?
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Yes. (Brackets just because PPRuNe won't take a message less than 10 characters long....)
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Mentioning Aberporth I should point out that NATS only operate the range control for Cardigan Bay from there, they have no presence on the airfield which is AFISO and operated by West Wales Airport. Contract decision for the range control should have been made by 20 Oct with a start date of 1 Apr 2015 and training commencing as early as Feb 2015.
By the way, this is the second time NATS have bid for Wattisham, the first being when the AAC were about to move in back in the late '90s. It was a joint bid with Cobham who were to operate ground services. I was on the assessment centre for the post of Man ATS but didn't get selected (spent a pleasant couple of days at the Crowne Plaza Heathrow though) and in any case, NATS didn't get the contract that time.

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