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Old 18th Apr 2014, 20:57
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The only time you'll ever catch me wearing a" t-shirt, shorts and flip flops" to work is the day they tell me they're not allowed and that they've made a dress code compulsory!
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Zonoma, I couldn't agree more
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Silly silly rules

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Old 18th Apr 2014, 21:30
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NATS dress code?

The thing that bothers me is that it seems to be just the NSL side of the business being targetted. If it's 'unsafe' for twr guys to wear trainers then how is it any safer at a centre?!
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 21:48
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Now I know NATS ATCOs at large will consider this the last bastion of the free world and their human rights, but come on guys, get a grip.

There's gonna be some very hard battles to fight in the coming years. But what you wear when you walk in the building isn't one of them...
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 22:03
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NATS dress code?

Best to get some practise in now for the upcoming battles then
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Old 18th Apr 2014, 22:50
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NATS dress code?

I think that ship sailed along time ago.

If the collective ATCO body can get more excited about their jeans and hoodies than some of the pay, pension, and WP ballots in recent years then that says it all. Management must be laughing.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 01:22
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Apologies for my lack of etiquette regarding "Slacks". But seriously, what we wear (within reason) should not be an issue.

I hope you will be wishing my team well on Sunday BTW

Stand up and fight
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 10:52
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If it's 'unsafe' for twr guys to wear trainers then how is it any safer at a centre?!
Ah, so nats inconsistencies prevail then…
Rules for the airports, rules for the centres…
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 13:41
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I think it's fairly important what the staff in the centres wear too. Both of them have 'viewing galleries' and invited guests frequently look in.
Does Gin and Tonic still have 'uniforms'?
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 15:35
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"Well, at the time of the incident I was distracted because these new dress shoes I have to now wear were very uncomfortable and bothering me...."

Another of the if-it's-not-broke-don't-fix-it rules being brought in. Judging by the responses on here and from what I've heard in the rest room, I would say the dress code IS something very important to the vast majority of controllers.
I agrees totally with no offensive logos, ripped jeans etc, but see no reason why jeans/shorts and a t-shirt should not be allowed if that is what the controller feels comfortable in. And by all means, those that like to wear shirt and trousers, feel free to do so.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 16:35
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The only people who care what we wear are the "suits". Says it all. Give me my shorts and flipflops any day, I'll certainly sport them at every given chance within the confines of the "new rules", and walk in, control in my usual manner, and walk out slightly more comfortable and relaxed. The days of the "shirt/tie" brigade are long gone, unless you want to kiss ass and jump up a ladder


It may well be that kind attitude that gave the suits at the Airline Group the idea of controllers paying for their own training.

They simply do not hold you in high regard any more and I have to say I don't blame them one little bit.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 17:07
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but see no reason why jeans/shorts and a t-shirt should not be allowed if that is what the controller feels comfortable in
The good reason being that, as Mantovani says, the suits and any visitors are not exactly going to hold you in very high regard if you look like a navvy. Comfortable does not have to equal scruffbag; this just seems to be inverted snobbery. I wonder if there is any occasion for which these people would actually manage to dress appropriately.

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Old 19th Apr 2014, 17:50
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It's an interesting one.
When 'Red' arrived, it was all open-neck shirts, smart casual. I have the pictures saved somewhere. Suits and ties were not the most comfortable kit to do the job in, so, thumbs-up for 'Red'.
When our unit was involved in re-location, the 're-location team' arrived to 'assimilate us', all smartly turned out in purple polo-shirts, with an outline of the new work-place embroidered in silver. Very smart.
At the old workplace, an employee who became the training manager wore shiny shoes, chinos, and a shirt and tie.
On his return to operational work, trainers, a tee-shirt and what can only be described as 'builders pants', (baggy, misshapen trousers, with pockets for construction tools), were deemed appropriate.
At the new unit, a supervisor frequently came to work dressed like a 'schoolboy'. This would not be allowed in a bank, retail-outlet, airline, or on the stock-exchange or in a council/parliamentary workplace, etc.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 18:43
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NATS dress code?

How will any dress code be enforced though? If I pitch up in a pair of jeans will I get sent home again? That'll be one way to ensure a nice early stack
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 18:50
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Chap turned up in a 'bullfighting' tee-shirt on night shift many years ago.
No 'early stack', just a petrol bill for 15 miles home, (to change), and another 15 back to work. Nicely done in his 'break' though.
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Old 19th Apr 2014, 20:51
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Mantovani. The idea of paying for your own training was floated many years before the Airline Group was even thought of.

All these pompous people spouting nonsense about poor dress really need to get a life. Supervisors etc should be at least smart casual, but otherwise does it really matter? Their 'poor' clothes probably cost a lot more than your smart 'slacks' .
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Attire is about perception. If you are well dressed people automatically see that you are conscientious about your appearance and as such, by suggestion, other things - including your profession. This is important if you are trying to create an image about your professionalism to a customer, or a superior, but plugged in the only customers I need to prove my professionalism to are at the other end of a radio. I fail to see what an ATC wears to work has any bearing whatsoever on how well he/she does their job.
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 09:06
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I find this attitude of we'll dress how we damn well like to be rather immature.

Board shorts and flip-flops are for the beach not the workplace. At best you look silly. The older ones look a little sad.
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Old 20th Apr 2014, 09:41
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Interesting post from Mr Zooker about the "supervisor" who came to work dressed as a schoolboy, presumably because it helped him to feel more comfortable and relaxed in times of stress; and yes, supervisors can become stressed. I suppose the next logical step is some pratt will come in dressed in a schoolgirls uniform.
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