Safeskys...ANSP?
Danscowpie: your last line makes you sound bitter as I appear to know more than you. I was offering the OP (Amexgull) the chance to contact me for further details which I have such as hours of operation, pay etc which I am not at liberty to divulge publicly, so why do you object to me helping others?
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Radarman and Danscowpie
If you read the Safeskys webpage you will see that we are not only the world’s largest provider of Bird Control Services but we also:
1. Train RAF fast jet pilots in the ground school for the Hawk aircraft.
2. We carry out survival training for RAF pilots including sea survival drills.
3. We maintain the radar at RAF Kinloss on a 24/7 basis.
4. We maintain all the navaids at Gütersloh Airbase in Germany.
5. We provide Air Traffic Control Services at an airport in Southern UK.
6. We train 59 UK airports in bird control, weapons handling and safe driving.
We have provided Air Traffic Control Services including ATCOs to Woodford, Coventry, Carlisle, Benbecula, Dundee, Sheffield City Airport, Dunsfold Airport and Swansea Airport.
Not bad for a mere ATCO is it ?
Gisajob
If you read the Safeskys webpage you will see that we are not only the world’s largest provider of Bird Control Services but we also:
1. Train RAF fast jet pilots in the ground school for the Hawk aircraft.
2. We carry out survival training for RAF pilots including sea survival drills.
3. We maintain the radar at RAF Kinloss on a 24/7 basis.
4. We maintain all the navaids at Gütersloh Airbase in Germany.
5. We provide Air Traffic Control Services at an airport in Southern UK.
6. We train 59 UK airports in bird control, weapons handling and safe driving.
We have provided Air Traffic Control Services including ATCOs to Woodford, Coventry, Carlisle, Benbecula, Dundee, Sheffield City Airport, Dunsfold Airport and Swansea Airport.
Not bad for a mere ATCO is it ?
Gisajob
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I was recently was at a meeting attended by Gisajob who decided to use the few secs of introduction time as they went around the table, to advise everyone that his company is the worlds largest provider of bird control, this was met with a groan from numerous other members of the meeting.
Never knew he was so well known.
Never knew he was so well known.
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Hi Sir George,
In reply to FM, the meeting was the CAA UK Birdstrike Committee annual meeting so it was entirely appropriate to introduce Safeskys as the world's largest airport bird control company. FM you work for a rival company, nevertheless you should be proud that a UK company holds that role.
FM you are a liar, no one groaned, not even you.
In reply to FM, the meeting was the CAA UK Birdstrike Committee annual meeting so it was entirely appropriate to introduce Safeskys as the world's largest airport bird control company. FM you work for a rival company, nevertheless you should be proud that a UK company holds that role.
FM you are a liar, no one groaned, not even you.
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They advertise for ATCOs at Dunsford here.
They ask for 'UK CAA ADC/ADI and APC', I don't much about Dunsfold apart from that it closed a few years ago and is reopening, did they have or have they got Radar?
What I want to know is (without sounding too dumb) when they say 'APC' do they really mean APC or do they mean APP or APS or both, I thought APC is Assessment for Previous Competency....it was once!
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They ask for 'UK CAA ADC/ADI and APC', I don't much about Dunsfold apart from that it closed a few years ago and is reopening, did they have or have they got Radar?
What I want to know is (without sounding too dumb) when they say 'APC' do they really mean APC or do they mean APP or APS or both, I thought APC is Assessment for Previous Competency....it was once!
Confused
Dunsfold did have radar before BAe moved out. The equipment in the tower was supposed to be mothballed, but in fact although displays in the tower were left in place, all wiring has been ripped out and will take some time to replace. ATC staff are not allowed in the old radar room as it is occupied by a non-ATC company, so what the situation is in there I don't know.
For APC read APP, there are no plans to instal radar.
For APC read APP, there are no plans to instal radar.
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What sort of traffic are the owners trying to attract to make it financially viable?
Word on the street about 2 weeks ago was "No", perhaps things have changed and Gisajob could enlighten us with the details.
No one should consider applying until the facts are published and accessible via the usual means.
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Happy to oblige Danscowpie
Safeskys’ application for ANSP accreditation is with SRG now for approval. The safety case is all done and submitted.
It is based on the provision of CAA Air Traffic Control Officers initially operating an ADC service at Dunsfold until an NDB can be installed, when GPS approaches will be introduced to upgrade the service to CAA APP. There are no plans to re-introduce radar yet.
Currently two CAA ADV/ADI ATCOs are employed in the tower and two more ADC/APP ATCOs are being recruited to supplement the team once the ANSP accreditation is approved.
When the airport is up and running with ADC, the current two ADC ATCOs will be sent on APP courses paid for by Safeskys.
If anyone wants more details, call me. My number is on the website:
Safeskys Ltd (Stop press & Jobs)
Gibraltar Next !!
Gisajob
It is based on the provision of CAA Air Traffic Control Officers initially operating an ADC service at Dunsfold until an NDB can be installed, when GPS approaches will be introduced to upgrade the service to CAA APP. There are no plans to re-introduce radar yet.
Currently two CAA ADV/ADI ATCOs are employed in the tower and two more ADC/APP ATCOs are being recruited to supplement the team once the ANSP accreditation is approved.
When the airport is up and running with ADC, the current two ADC ATCOs will be sent on APP courses paid for by Safeskys.
If anyone wants more details, call me. My number is on the website:
Safeskys Ltd (Stop press & Jobs)
Gibraltar Next !!
Gisajob
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Safeskys’ application for ANSP accreditation is with SRG now for approval. The safety case is all done and submitted.
In order to provide a service the company must be certificated in accordance with the SES Service Provision regulation to provide the relevant services (and thus comply with relevant parts of the Common Requirements), probably certified as a training provider in accordance with ANO article 198 (and the related articles which apply), approval to provide services at a particular place issued under the provisions of ANO article 169. There's also the matter of having a MATS with any revisions required under ANO article 171 and having relevant equipment approved under the provisions of ANO article 205. And these are only the things that immediately come to mind.
So how much of that is currently in place?
Don't worry spitoon, it's all in hand; meantime just be glad there's another potential ATS provider coming on the market so the job market for non - NATS ATCOs in the south east will open up a bit.
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Hi Radarman,
Thank you for your advice.
Safeskys has been involved with the bidding for Gibraltar Air Traffic Control Services since 1993 when it was first contracted out. We have tendered twice since.
You are right in noting the problems but the solution is not to treat it like any International Airport. It is a RAF Station which has civil movements. The ATCOs need to be recruited with the low movement rate in mind and the high tax and cost of living in Gibraltar is also a factor.
It is also highly political which may be the reason why NATS were given the contract last time.
What would you suggest are the main problems and what are the solutions. Pm me.
Oh, you don't need to buy a wheelcover, they are free !!
Gisajob
Thank you for your advice.
Safeskys has been involved with the bidding for Gibraltar Air Traffic Control Services since 1993 when it was first contracted out. We have tendered twice since.
You are right in noting the problems but the solution is not to treat it like any International Airport. It is a RAF Station which has civil movements. The ATCOs need to be recruited with the low movement rate in mind and the high tax and cost of living in Gibraltar is also a factor.
It is also highly political which may be the reason why NATS were given the contract last time.
What would you suggest are the main problems and what are the solutions. Pm me.
Oh, you don't need to buy a wheelcover, they are free !!
Gisajob
It's all going on slowly.
Before the ATC unit can be licenced, new equipment complete with safety cases must be installed. The weather station is already in and the new (duplicated) radios will be in shortly (they're currently sitting in boxes in the VCR). Robust procedures to clear the runway of 'obstructions' (not always J Clarkson) are being evolved; bear in mind the owners have no plans to licence the airfield.
Present service being provided is A/G; gisajob is paying quite a satisfactory amount for this (no, no vacancies!). Movements for Jan 2012 totalled 140 but this excludes touch and go's/go arounds so I would guess the actual total would be nearer 200 if you factored these in (there are several home based aircraft which often take advantage of the runway being clear to do some circuit bashing). Not a lot I know but it's increasing all the time.
There is a NOTAM in force requesting transit traffic to call Dunsfold Radio for traffic info. Even the military are complying with this; I've had Merlins, Hercules and Lynx call up as it's a popular area of the military low flying system.
Safeskys are also considering bidding for a FISO unit. I've heard a rumour where this might be but I can't pass it on openly as it is only a rumour and might upset the negotiations if it's released prematurely.
Before the ATC unit can be licenced, new equipment complete with safety cases must be installed. The weather station is already in and the new (duplicated) radios will be in shortly (they're currently sitting in boxes in the VCR). Robust procedures to clear the runway of 'obstructions' (not always J Clarkson) are being evolved; bear in mind the owners have no plans to licence the airfield.
Present service being provided is A/G; gisajob is paying quite a satisfactory amount for this (no, no vacancies!). Movements for Jan 2012 totalled 140 but this excludes touch and go's/go arounds so I would guess the actual total would be nearer 200 if you factored these in (there are several home based aircraft which often take advantage of the runway being clear to do some circuit bashing). Not a lot I know but it's increasing all the time.
There is a NOTAM in force requesting transit traffic to call Dunsfold Radio for traffic info. Even the military are complying with this; I've had Merlins, Hercules and Lynx call up as it's a popular area of the military low flying system.
Safeskys are also considering bidding for a FISO unit. I've heard a rumour where this might be but I can't pass it on openly as it is only a rumour and might upset the negotiations if it's released prematurely.
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