PPRuNe Forums


ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10th Mar 2011, 00:04   #21 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: UKCC
Age: 27
Posts: 6
Question

hello fellas, this is my 1st post. I have some questions about SDM test.
I'm going to undergo it on monday, the 14th of march.
I almost understood all the information mentioned above but i can't understand how to detect opposite conflicts. I'll be pleased if anyone respond me and give some advices)
weirdo13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 11:52   #22 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Home away from home
Posts: 553
You will be given plenty of time to practice and read before the test so don't worry. You're not expected to know it beforehand so a part of the test is being able to learn new theory quickly.
Crazy Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 12:15   #23 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: UKCC
Age: 27
Posts: 6
I don't know how yours authorities conduct the strip tests, but in Ukraine emloyeers are given 90 min to learn instructions and only the couple minutes to practice real testing. it's irritating that means of testing have difference in different countries.
weirdo13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 15:21   #24 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Home away from home
Posts: 553
Well I did it with NATS, but if I remember correctly we also had 90 minutes to learn and then a practice round before the real test.

I found 90 minutes to be plenty though, but maybe that's just me...
Crazy Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 15:38   #25 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: UKCC
Age: 27
Posts: 6
ok, and what about skytest software?
is it safe to issue all the information, concerning my credit card?
weirdo13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 16:10   #26 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canary Islands, Spain
Posts: 19
Eurocontrol tests are the same in every country, Weirdo.

Quote:
They show detailed instructions before every test, and then 8-10 min practice before real exam.
Shadowrun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 16:48   #27 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: UKCC
Age: 27
Posts: 6
Shadowrun,
some friends of mine have passed sdm and there were only few minutes of real test(
weirdo13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 18:50   #28 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Home away from home
Posts: 553
I have no clue about skytest, I never used it. But I belive that the skytest is not needed, the SDM is designed for you to come without preparation. So trying to prepare for it will in the end do you no good (either you won't pass anyway or you will pass when you shouldn't have, which would mean a lot of wasted time and money both for you and the test provider).
Crazy Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10th Mar 2011, 18:53   #29 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canary Islands, Spain
Posts: 19
WEIRDO; ok, neither you nor I had stopwatches to measure time.

I guess practice time is to get used to the graphical interface, not to practice insertion and removal of strips.
Shadowrun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th Mar 2011, 05:59   #30 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: UKCC
Age: 27
Posts: 6
Shadowrun, you're right)
weirdo13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th Mar 2011, 10:56   #31 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: UKCC
Age: 27
Posts: 6
so, tomorrow is my great day)
good luck to me)
weirdo13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2011, 00:31   #32 (permalink)
amj


Probationary PPRuNer
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Poland
Age: 27
Posts: 1
Hi, I've question about opposite conflicts.. Hope you can help me

Do opposite conflicts have to be betweer aircrafts flying in reverse directions? Well, that's what its name suggests, but this deffinition by fidelove doesn't contain anything about directions:
"Opossite conflicts: These coflicts includes two checkpoints and two strips on each checkpoint. The situation is that two planes are between the same two checkpoints at the same time, and altitude difference on both checkpoint is less or equal to 30 FL."

So can I have an opposite conflict flying same direction?
amj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2011, 13:22   #33 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canary Islands, Spain
Posts: 19
"...between the same two checkpoints at the same time" he means: 1 aircrfat goes in 1 direction and the other in opposite direction, so both paths will cross. ^^
Shadowrun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2011, 13:38   #34 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 72
Posts: 8,064
"30 fl"

???
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd May 2011, 18:42   #35 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canary Islands, Spain
Posts: 19
DIRECTOR, SDM is part of FEAST test made by Eurocontrol to apply as air controller. That test has specific rules, and one of them is "opposite conflicts".

Difference in altitude between both aircrafts : 30 FL or less.

Or have i misunderstood your question?
Shadowrun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st May 2011, 13:05   #36 (permalink)
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: italy
Posts: 22
hello to everybody,
i m going to take a test soon. I ve got just one question. how I can solve conflicts during sdm test?
Thanks to all
weirdgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st May 2011, 16:41   #37 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Home away from home
Posts: 553
You don't, it will all be explained thoroughly in the test briefing.
Crazy Voyager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th Jun 2011, 10:12   #38 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Switzerland
Age: 33
Posts: 44
Hi everyone,

I will be doing the SDM test with Skyguide in two weeks.
I'm training with skytest and I read all the post in the forum, thank you everybody for the help, now the test is really more simple.
Anyone else have done the test with Skyguide? Can you please let me know more informations about the Radar test as well?

Thanks & Regards to all!
spoon84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th Jul 2011, 17:32   #39 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bulgaria
Posts: 4
Comparison between Sky test and the online test at www.feasttest.com

Hello guys,

I have to sit for the FEAST test pretty soon so I would like to ask you does anybody of you have seen both preparation tools for the feast - Sky test and the online version at FEAST Test Preparation Tool - Feasttest.com I will appreciate if somebody of you compares them and tell me which one is better, because I am wondering to which of them to subscribe.

Thx in advance
dodo_modo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th Jul 2011, 20:39   #40 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canary Islands, Spain
Posts: 19
New FEAST test at july 2011 in Spain.

SDM was replaced by a brand new test: DART (Dynamic Air Radar T---).

There isn't any info on the internet about DART.

It had nothing to do with strips. It was a radar simulator. You had to change heading and flight levels to avoid conflicts (not local or opposite conflicts, but real crashes).

It's easier than SDM. Instructions are well explained and you have 3 tests to practice before real test.

Duration: 2h
Shadowrun is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:34.


1996-2012 The Professional Pilots Rumour Network

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1