Two italian ATCOs in jail
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 49
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Two italian ATCOs in jail
Hello friends,
As you might know, there are two italian ATCOs in jail due to an accident ocurred in Cagliari (LIEE) back in 2004. The accident involved an ambulance flight performing a visual approach at night.
I have the sentence, a 96 pages italian written document. Althoght I'm spanish, a legal text is too much for me to understand.
I'm looking for someone that can check out the text and find for me the reason/s why these two fellows are imprisioned.
Thanks.
Dr. T
As you might know, there are two italian ATCOs in jail due to an accident ocurred in Cagliari (LIEE) back in 2004. The accident involved an ambulance flight performing a visual approach at night.
I have the sentence, a 96 pages italian written document. Althoght I'm spanish, a legal text is too much for me to understand.
I'm looking for someone that can check out the text and find for me the reason/s why these two fellows are imprisioned.
Thanks.
Dr. T
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: in the sandpit
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Found on Ifatca website : International Federation of Air Traffic Controllers' Associations
"Italian Court Judgment a detriment to Safety
The International Federation of Air Traffic Controllers’ Associations condemns the ruling of the Italian court of appeal in Cagliari on 18 March 2010, which confirmed an earlier sentence of two years imprisonment for the controllers who were on duty at Cagliari airport at the time of the controlled flight into terrain accident of a Cessna Citation near Cagliari on the 24 February 2004.
This is but another instance in which the judicial system of a country has shown a lack of understanding of how the aviation system operates and consequently produces a verdict that undermines the provision of the highest level of safety to the very public that is the judiciary’s primary constituent.
In international civil aviation it is understood that the ultimate responsibility for the safety of a flight rests with the captain of that flight. This applies to all flights; including those that are operated under Instrument Flight Rules in controlled airspace under the guidance of an Air Traffic Control unit. Air traffic controllers worldwide are aware of this authrity of flight captains and are trained to
accommodate requests from pilots for specific changes in the status of a flight whenever possible, as long as this does not jeopardize the safety of other flights.
In the case of the accident in Cagliari it was the pilot who requested to perform a visual approach. The controller specifically asked if during such an approach the pilots could provide their own separation from obstacles, and the answer of the pilot was affirmative. The controller subsequently authorized the visual approach, because, under the prevailing rules and regulations
in Italy at that time, there was no reason from an air traffic control perspective to withhold such permission.
Sad as the outcome of the event was, it is IFATCA's considered opinion that the pilots were fully accountable for their decision to conduct a visual approach that night. The controllers acted within the norms of internationally established procedures, and it could even be argued that they performed beyond the call of duty by asking the pilots about their ability to maintain their own separation from obstacles during the visual approach.
As a result to this court ruling, our Member Association in Italy, ANACNA, has appealed to its members to not authorize any visual approaches in Italy anymore. IFATCA endorses the approach of our Member Association as being in the professional interest of the Italian air traffic controllers. This reaction demonstrates that criminalizing air traffic controllers for doing their jobs
in accordance with their training and experience will only have a negative impact on efforts to continually improve the safety and efficiency of the aviation system. "
"Italian Court Judgment a detriment to Safety
The International Federation of Air Traffic Controllers’ Associations condemns the ruling of the Italian court of appeal in Cagliari on 18 March 2010, which confirmed an earlier sentence of two years imprisonment for the controllers who were on duty at Cagliari airport at the time of the controlled flight into terrain accident of a Cessna Citation near Cagliari on the 24 February 2004.
This is but another instance in which the judicial system of a country has shown a lack of understanding of how the aviation system operates and consequently produces a verdict that undermines the provision of the highest level of safety to the very public that is the judiciary’s primary constituent.
In international civil aviation it is understood that the ultimate responsibility for the safety of a flight rests with the captain of that flight. This applies to all flights; including those that are operated under Instrument Flight Rules in controlled airspace under the guidance of an Air Traffic Control unit. Air traffic controllers worldwide are aware of this authrity of flight captains and are trained to
accommodate requests from pilots for specific changes in the status of a flight whenever possible, as long as this does not jeopardize the safety of other flights.
In the case of the accident in Cagliari it was the pilot who requested to perform a visual approach. The controller specifically asked if during such an approach the pilots could provide their own separation from obstacles, and the answer of the pilot was affirmative. The controller subsequently authorized the visual approach, because, under the prevailing rules and regulations
in Italy at that time, there was no reason from an air traffic control perspective to withhold such permission.
Sad as the outcome of the event was, it is IFATCA's considered opinion that the pilots were fully accountable for their decision to conduct a visual approach that night. The controllers acted within the norms of internationally established procedures, and it could even be argued that they performed beyond the call of duty by asking the pilots about their ability to maintain their own separation from obstacles during the visual approach.
As a result to this court ruling, our Member Association in Italy, ANACNA, has appealed to its members to not authorize any visual approaches in Italy anymore. IFATCA endorses the approach of our Member Association as being in the professional interest of the Italian air traffic controllers. This reaction demonstrates that criminalizing air traffic controllers for doing their jobs
in accordance with their training and experience will only have a negative impact on efforts to continually improve the safety and efficiency of the aviation system. "
Join Date: May 2008
Location: UK
Age: 43
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
italy...
is a joke of a country. No one respects any laws. Judges, politicians and police are crooked and corrupt. The few judges that aren't corrupt get blown up or shot. The laws are outdated and make no sense in today's world. Court cases last years and years with useless appeals and mountains of useless paperwork. And then you come across news like this and you just wander WTF!?!?! Pedophiles get less prison time then these two poor guys in the tower who were doing their jobs. Italy deserves to get booted from the EU and be part of Africa.
Last edited by F6HellCat; 19th Apr 2010 at 12:43.
I don't get it. What were they found guilty of? What was the charge?Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: the dark side of the sun
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Europe
Age: 65
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Has anyone, IFATCA for example, been able to lodge an appeal on behalf of our 2 comrades?
The attitudes towards ATC in Europe is despicable and leads to many incidents/BoS going unreported due to the lack of just culture policies within the ANSPs in Europe. we as a profession must work towards having these anachronistic and barbaric attitudes changed.
The attitudes towards ATC in Europe is despicable and leads to many incidents/BoS going unreported due to the lack of just culture policies within the ANSPs in Europe. we as a profession must work towards having these anachronistic and barbaric attitudes changed.
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: bespin, the cloud city
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
sorry didnt really contribute anything to your post lol ....
Tell us from which milk&honey land you are scattering crap on other and we all might make an effort to raise our standards by learning from you...I have a bad feeling about it, I must warn you!
Meanwhile, for those interested in the motivation of the sentence, you can monitor the Italian forum and ask questions there. Many posters are ATCOs and they will be keen to clarify in EN. Yes HELLPUSSYCAT, WE CAN...speak, write and read English!
Ciao
PZ
