ATC IssuesA place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.
I am a bit confused about the new Prestwick Centre and was hoping those in the know might be able to explain.
Firstly, Im aware that the old MACC, ScACC, D & D, Mil and Oceanic are all in the same ops room, however which are seperate, and which join to be one unit?
Secondly, are ScACC moving to NODE? I would have thought it quite strange to have different sections of the Ops room on different systems (with an exception on Oceanic, of course). All the pictures I have seen of PC so far have been using NODE.
and finally, will there be any sectorisation or frequency changes that anyone is aware of? I can imagine MACC sectors like East and North Lower/Upper would have misleading names if both MACC and ScACC were one unit.
well, it used to be scacc and the mil in the one ops room , with the D&D cell in the box room in the corner. and shanwick had their own ops room round the corner. Macc were located at manchester airport just below the tower.
as things stand, shanwick are located in the new place, and the mil are imminently to move, if they haven't already, with scacc moving in in early december and macc sometime in january i think.
Yes we are indeed moving to the node system. and we are getting a fully comprehensive set of training days to learn the node systems plusses(many) and negatives(many as well). we are also getting a new telephone and radio panel system which we are having to learn, as well as a new backup r/t and telephone system, a new information retrieval system(SIRS), oh and mode S of course. did i leave anything out?
As far as i'm aware , the transition should be seemless from the pilots perspective, with no frequency or sector changes. however, if we sound a bit lost on the r/t , bare with us , we are losing all our little aid memoirs posted around each sector which are deemed to be huuge fire risks and all this information is going to be on the new SIRS, but we need to find the right page
thanks awfully
Yes we are indeed moving to the node system. and we are getting a fully comprehensive set of training days to learn the node systems plusses(many) and negatives(many as well). we are also getting a new telephone and radio panel system which we are having to learn, as well as a new backup r/t and telephone system, a new information retrieval system(SIRS), oh and mode S of course. did i leave anything out?
New power system and multi radar tracking probably are the main one's missed .............
but apart from
a new telephone and radio panel system
New power system
Node
SIRS
mode S
Multi radar tracking
a new backup r/t and telephone system
new canteen with new 'improved' prices
apparently so, will just need to make sure i dont mix it up with my toddlers one!! i wonder will the have our names on them?! Im already on my second shiney new headset! only been in the tdu since may!! lol!!
I expect I may be a couple of months too early asking this question, but quite a few years ago ( I can't recall the exact year but certainly before 2000 ) I was fortunate enough to be part of a group that visited Atlantic House one evening. As part of a short presentation at the end of the visit, we each received a copy of a booklet describing the work undertaken at the Scottish and Oceanic Centres. The booklet was published by the CAA and had " CAA Document No. 259 " on the back cover.
I was wondering if anyone knows if it is the intention to publish a similar document describing the new Centre.
The booklet was published by the CAA and had " CAA Document No. 259 " on the back cover.
I was wondering if anyone knows if it is the intention to publish a similar document describing the new Centre.
During the year I organise quite a few flying club visits in order to educate some of my customers (PPL's) on the mysteries (to them) of ATC. As part of these visits I have a small booklet produced by the unit giving basic details of our operations ( nothing as grand as an official CAA doc!! ). As for PC I am unsure as yet how next years flying club visits will progress but I am sure once the dust settles demands on my spare time will once again come!...
Where are we with PC are Oceanic in already and when do Scottish Domestic move in? Also what disadvantages does NODE have over the prehistoric system domestic are using now?
Where are we with PC are Oceanic in already and when do Scottish Domestic move in? Also what disadvantages does NODE have over the prehistoric system domestic are using now?
Oceanic already in, the boys in blue go live on Saturday, Scottish Airways move in December and the Manchester team follow on in January....
In response to the original question, D&D will now be called Alerting Cell or something similar, and will be in a box in the corner as before. A little more obviously a box but a box in the corner just the same.
The big difference is that the outside world (ops room) can see in through the windows and watch the D&D Controllers doing nothing........ apart from being there........ ready....like a coiled spring........ready to assist in a heartbeat ...... watching footy on the biggest telly in the building.
In the event of SAROPS ON, a red light can be made to illuminate above the door and make sure everyone in the room knows to select Guard to avoid missing out on the news.
marble bar - NODE system is very good, apart from the fact that to incorporate Scottish, we have now had the letter 'A' foisted on us to denote altitudes, when we did perfectly well without beforehand in London airspace.
set of training days to learn the node systems plusses(many) and negatives(many as well). we are also getting a new telephone and radio panel system which we are having to learn, as well as a new backup r/t and telephone system, a new information retrieval system(SIRS), oh and mode S of course. did i leave anything out?
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