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Old 14th Dec 2011, 12:13
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With reference to your application for the above-mentioned training, I unfortunately have to inform you, that we cannot invite you for our phase 1 selection test in the near future.

This is due to the fact that according to our present manpower planning we do not have a requirement for additional air traffic controllers until 2017. We will therefore only need to train students as from the beginning of 2014.

This means we will only start with our selection tests again in 2013. We will keep your application form and will be in contact with you again at the end of 2012 to find out if you are still interested to participate in our selection tests in 2013.

Please accept our apologies for this inconvenience.
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Old 14th Dec 2011, 17:26
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^^^ So I take it that anyone who has applied in the last month (i.e. me) will get the same reply... right???
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Old 15th Dec 2011, 07:37
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I applied in September.
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Old 15th Dec 2011, 14:45
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^^^ Ok then, let me rephrase, does that mean anyone who applied at roughly the same time as you will get the same reply?? Or do they consider everyone before they turn them down, did you apply for trainee position or are you an experienced controller?
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Old 15th Dec 2011, 14:54
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MUAC is 'overstaffed' by about 35 controllers I believe - although some sectors are still 'short' due non equal distribution of staff.

Recruitment will continue in order to keep the wheels greased, as it where; but significant numbers of new controllers will not be needed at least for a while.

The 2012 courses are full and have been for some time, the last time I checked 2013 courses were also almost full (although the numbers to be recruited were up on 2012). Dont forget if you are just applying now any good candidates that have already been through the process will be filling the last few spots.

Its simply not a good time to be applying unfortunately. However, as usual I predict come 2017 there will be a massive shortfall!
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Old 15th Dec 2011, 15:56
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hey, I thought the 2013 course have been cancelled?

it would be good to know because I have already tried it in 2010 and failed the inverview because of english.
and my plan was to apply again at the end of next year and I thought all tests are cancelled and the selection procedure is going to start again in january 2013 for the 2014 courses?
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Old 15th Dec 2011, 16:27
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That could easily be the case.

Its been about 6 weeks since I had any kind of contact with people in the HR dept. over such things.
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Old 20th Dec 2011, 14:14
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as usual I predict come 2017 there will be a massive shortfall!
Possibly all applications being handled by the DFS then
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Old 20th Dec 2011, 16:25
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where is this DFS stuff coming from Lon More?

DO you mean DFS will handle the training (not outside the realms of possibility) or are you implying some take over of MUAC by DFS?

If its the second you are implying, id love to know your sources as the tide of info we have at the moment is pointing in the exact opposite direction.......
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Old 20th Dec 2011, 22:54
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MUAC has always been a target for the DFS. They are looking at taking over NATS then MUAC would nicely fill in the gap. With LNVL and Belgocontrol reduced to APP/TWR services only it's an attractive target. It was first being mooted about 20 years ago.
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Old 21st Dec 2011, 06:47
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Indeed, first mooted about 20yrs ago.

MUAC is the subject of institutional change at the moment, with the possibility of a split from Eurocontrol in Brussels to continue on as a separate international organisation as well as a few other options - simply being 'taken over' by DFS is not one of the options and quite frankly never will be, as:

1. It is not a private organisation for sale
2. The Dutch government have already stated they will not relinquish their stake/control
3. In a FABEC context the French have already VETOd any private ownership option.

Im pretty certain MUAC will get a name change in the next 5-10yrs and probably fall outside the Eurocontrol umbrella - but not under ownership of the DFS!
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Old 22nd Dec 2011, 18:57
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I have a question: I was surfing on the internet and came on the website of FTE Jerez. It seems that they also offer ATC courses and training? I thought ATC was done by gouverments?
Can someone explain this to me? The I didn't find much if I looked up ATC course FTE.
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 08:36
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simply being 'taken over' by DFS is not one of the options

.... and pigs don't fly. Time will tell.

Meantime Merry Christmas to you all, and a Happy and Safe New Year
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 13:20
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FEAST Test Part 2

Hi all,

I have just passed FEAST Part 1 and in the next month I will take FEAST Part 2. Does someone know what exactly part 2 includes?! Previous threads mention the SDM and DART but the head of training at the control tower for which I'm applying for said that it includes 6 web based tests!! Which are they?!

Thanks in advance.
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 14:02
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The second part of FEST is DART!
Dart is divided for 6 parts. First 3 for training, and the last 3 will take effect on you mark!
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Old 27th Dec 2011, 14:50
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What is the difference between the parts?! I assume it is the difficulty level. Am I correct?!
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 13:32
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Ab Initio 1 commenced January 5, 1970, it was a long walk from the Parliament building to the Institute through nearly a meter of snow - no road then!!!
Out of interest, what course number are they up to now?
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 14:24
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59 if i'm not mistaken
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Old 5th Jan 2012, 17:15
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strip test

hello

in the feast test the strip dispaly management test is still there?
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Old 9th Jan 2012, 16:37
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feasttest

hello stefane. I am from cyprus too and i also applied. The sdm is now replaced by the dart test.
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