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Old 27th Apr 2009, 17:58   #61 (permalink)
 
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Thanks.

There was a slight delay but was due to a problem with my attached school certificate. Just heard from them there.
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Old 28th Apr 2009, 19:33   #62 (permalink)
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Hi im new in the forum. I have a question about the studies that I need. I am from Spain and I have Secondary School I think in England is 5 GCSEs and in America is grade 10. Is that enough to apply?

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Old 3rd May 2009, 10:00   #63 (permalink)
 
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hello to all,
I will be applying to Eurocontrol on Monday (already completed the application form). Does anybody have an idea on when the next invitations are going to be? thank you in advance, have a nice day!
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Old 6th May 2009, 08:15   #64 (permalink)
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Hi!

I'm going to take the first phase test on May 27th! Do you have any tips for me? We only have to make those IQ tests? what king of tests should i expect?

Good luck all!
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Old 6th May 2009, 15:52   #65 (permalink)
 
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hey tiago..

When did you send your application form? coz i will send mine today or tomorrow, maybe we ll be there together at the same time

at the first stage you ll have to pass the FEAST test, thats what i understood from the previous posters. heres the link, check it out and you ll have an idea..

FEAST test - Wikipedia

enjoy ur day
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Old 15th May 2009, 10:49   #66 (permalink)
 
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i failed on stage 2

what should i do now? that was the first time when i really believed in myself and i thought that i can do it.
what should i do now if i want to be an air traffic controller? i can't repeat it at Maastricht, cause two years from now i will be over 25. nats... there are thousand of people who try to make their own career as atco and they're native english person but me... i'm not english. i'm just so sad
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Old 15th May 2009, 11:19   #67 (permalink)
 
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Piqla: try NATS, there's nothing to lose and I don't think being English is that much of an advantage. Btw, why didn't you try your local ATS provider first?
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Old 15th May 2009, 11:25   #68 (permalink)
 
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At the provider of my country's airspace there is only one chance, so i can't repeat it

(and in a silent way i have to mention it i'm not an english expert so i guess i would be kicked out at the interview process if not before.)

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Old 15th May 2009, 11:37   #69 (permalink)
 
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Piqla, you got a PM. By the way, just recently I was watching a young British guy talking on a TV show... and it was not "hard to understand", as British English sometimes is to my untrained ears. It was not English AT ALL! I did not get a word of it, literally. I hope they wouldn't let SUCH people do ATC
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Old 15th May 2009, 12:18   #70 (permalink)
 
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Some people from former USSR work in EUROCONTROL. As far as I know they are not so competent and their English is awful. I am interested how they can work there and what they do in EUROCONTROL. Are there any comments?
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Old 15th May 2009, 13:11   #71 (permalink)
 
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As far as I know they are not so competent and their English is awful
Wonder where you got that 'knowledge'? Ever met any of them? Or perhaps ... no ... really ... you wouldn't say such things just from hearsay ... would you?

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Old 17th May 2009, 18:49   #72 (permalink)
 
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hi...
i was wondering if someone could please inform me more about the selection process...I have looked on the website and it seems that they do all of the tests of the 1st day? is this right? and then if you pass the 1st day...all you have is a medical and thats it!!
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Old 18th May 2009, 07:22   #73 (permalink)
 
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Come on , tow-bar , where are you ? Don't be shy

One of those wannabees that will never be , are you?
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Old 19th May 2009, 11:40   #74 (permalink)
 
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No, guys, I didn't want to offend anybody. And I didn't mean people from Baltic states. I met many of them and for compairson - ATCOs from southern countries had a lot of problems with porcedures and English.
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Old 19th May 2009, 12:14   #75 (permalink)

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Tow-Bar; Eurocontrol is composed of 38 member states. Some of these are parts of the former USSR so in that you are correct. However there is a minimum standard of fluency in English for those wishing to get into ATC. If this is not met, no chance. Competence is checked all the way through, initially at IANS, later at Maastricht by the Training Section and Ops. Staff. To imply, as you do, that incompetents get through is an insult to a group of very hard working, dedicated professionals.
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Old 23rd May 2009, 18:02   #76 (permalink)
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Hey, so I have sent my application form and exam certificates across to Eurocontrol. Just wondering, do they tend to say yes to everybody, like NATS do, to sit the first stage of selection? Or do they actually weed people out straight away?

Thanks!
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Old 24th May 2009, 16:09   #77 (permalink)
 
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piqla: as far as I remember the thing about the FEAST test was, that you're not allowed to take it for a second time if you've failed it at another organization, so you had two chances already, good for you.

Anyway if you say your English is not that good - which might be one of the reasons you didn't pass phase 2 - maybe you should just go brush up on it a little bit (ie. INTERNATIONAL HOUSE Nyelviskola) and give it another try at some other place - like Austrocontrol, DFS (Germany)... There're plenty of places all around Europe now and they're all looking for controllers... I know a few people from HC who actually went for a conversion to Karlsruhe and there are some guys who applied as ab-initios as well, so there you go - but first of all make sure that your English is good enough, because you can be as good as hell in all the tests, the language you speak every day, the language you'll learn all the things about the job is English...
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Old 25th May 2009, 06:34   #78 (permalink)
 
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Hello everybody and a good day.. I've got a question, I've sent my application form and diplomas to Eurocontrol on last Monday (18th of May), but still haven't heard from them. Is this normal? or, how long does it take to get a reply? Thank you very much in advance.
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Old 25th May 2009, 10:46   #79 (permalink)

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Is this normal?
Don't forget Thursday was a Public Holiday. Many people would also take Friday off as well
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Old 25th May 2009, 10:52   #80 (permalink)
 
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It took the guts of a week to get a response to my initial application earlier this year, so I wouldn't worry.
Pending medical I'll be starting training in Vienna early November
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