Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
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Hey Guy,
Yeh i think im on the same course as you, enroute? I'm all sorted for a place to live, but if youre nervous, best advice is to spend the better part of an hour reading this thread, there is a tonne of great info so you know a bit more about what we're getting into, and what to expect.
I'm living in sydenham so if you're nearby, shoot me through a PM and we'll meet up for a few beers!
Tim
Yeh i think im on the same course as you, enroute? I'm all sorted for a place to live, but if youre nervous, best advice is to spend the better part of an hour reading this thread, there is a tonne of great info so you know a bit more about what we're getting into, and what to expect.
I'm living in sydenham so if you're nearby, shoot me through a PM and we'll meet up for a few beers!
Tim
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@arthur, Class 3 medical took me about 2 weeks, I would only get it done once you are told you are suitable following interview. I got it done after I accepted an offer however (I am controlling in a blue suit at the moment)
@silicon, I would ring them up and ask them why you dont meet the requirements, I would assume that they have made an error given the experience that you have. At least if you know where you didnt make the grade you can get on you way to fixing whats broke so to speak. I know a guy In a similar position (20+ years experience in UK) got told he was unnacceptable because he had not exercised his tower endorsement in Australia. Long story short he still hasnt (got a tower endorsement) and has an interview with AsA. I think it depends who reviews your application.
Anyone else on this forum doing conversion course starting 29 April (terminal) and staying at quest? I have a car and can carpool, inbox me if you need.
@silicon, I would ring them up and ask them why you dont meet the requirements, I would assume that they have made an error given the experience that you have. At least if you know where you didnt make the grade you can get on you way to fixing whats broke so to speak. I know a guy In a similar position (20+ years experience in UK) got told he was unnacceptable because he had not exercised his tower endorsement in Australia. Long story short he still hasnt (got a tower endorsement) and has an interview with AsA. I think it depends who reviews your application.
Anyone else on this forum doing conversion course starting 29 April (terminal) and staying at quest? I have a car and can carpool, inbox me if you need.
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Sat the online test yesterday, apart from the fact that two of the questions had no correct answer there for me to click (emailed them about that one!) it seemed ok, let's see how I go 
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Hey Darren, I fly into and out of MEL a lot, I probably speak to you as well from time to time....I work for a large airline based in the middle east that is presently in partnership with QF....the sound of a deck for beer drinking sounds too good to be true
Can I come round, sit on the deck and drink beer? I can sweeten the deal with a few hosties that I'm sure I can drag along
Can I come round, sit on the deck and drink beer? I can sweeten the deal with a few hosties that I'm sure I can drag along
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Jim,
All four of us on my tower course were pilots and I believe a high percentage of the trainees on one of the current enroute courses are also pilots. So I doubt they are biased against us.
One of the assessors when I did the sim exercise asked me if I was a pilot, because of the phraseology I was using, but he didn't seem to have a problem with it.
All four of us on my tower course were pilots and I believe a high percentage of the trainees on one of the current enroute courses are also pilots. So I doubt they are biased against us.
One of the assessors when I did the sim exercise asked me if I was a pilot, because of the phraseology I was using, but he didn't seem to have a problem with it.
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Jim,
Like Steve, I know many students from my time at the academy that had pilot backgrounds, therefore I find it difficult to believe that you would be discriminated against for those reasons.
I believe that that regardless of the specific subject of any of the tests on the assessment day, you have to follow the instructions. If they say, "Using the information available, tell me this... or answer that, then if you answer using your previous experience and what you think you already know on the subject, you don't necessarily hit the nail on the head.
They are testing your ability to absorb information, relay it and follow instructions... after all if you are successful they will teach you everything you need to know.
I might be wrong, I don't have any experience recruiting for ATC.
Regards,
Spanks
Like Steve, I know many students from my time at the academy that had pilot backgrounds, therefore I find it difficult to believe that you would be discriminated against for those reasons.
I believe that that regardless of the specific subject of any of the tests on the assessment day, you have to follow the instructions. If they say, "Using the information available, tell me this... or answer that, then if you answer using your previous experience and what you think you already know on the subject, you don't necessarily hit the nail on the head.
They are testing your ability to absorb information, relay it and follow instructions... after all if you are successful they will teach you everything you need to know.
I might be wrong, I don't have any experience recruiting for ATC.
Regards,
Spanks
Last edited by SpankyRooster; 16th Mar 2013 at 13:40. Reason: Just to ramble on a little further....
Jim, the whole point is you're undergoing an aptitude test not a knowledge test. Clearly "leave you pilot knowledge at the door" wasn't stressed enough because what did you do?
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Hi guys,
I had an incomplete application in the system. I got an email on Friday saying that some spots for assessment are still available in April and I should apply if I want to be considered. Are these guys short of applicants or something? Do they actually keep an eye on incomplete applications coming through? I would have though that they would only bother with the submitted ones.
Anyway, put my application in today so lets see how it goes.
I had an incomplete application in the system. I got an email on Friday saying that some spots for assessment are still available in April and I should apply if I want to be considered. Are these guys short of applicants or something? Do they actually keep an eye on incomplete applications coming through? I would have though that they would only bother with the submitted ones.
Anyway, put my application in today so lets see how it goes.
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were are always short of controllers in Oz, both military and Civvie. at some point the system is going to break in certain areas, they are trying to recruit in order for that not to occur
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Hi guys, I have an assessment day early April.
Is it important that I visit a centre/tower/terminal before my assessment day?
I tried arranging a visit, but each time I call, and the reception lady tries to transfer my call to someone in the right department; no one answers the phone.
Should I just keep persisting? How long in advance do I need to arrange a visit? 1-2 weeks? I worried I wont have enough time to schedule a visit before my assessment.
Cheers
Is it important that I visit a centre/tower/terminal before my assessment day?
I tried arranging a visit, but each time I call, and the reception lady tries to transfer my call to someone in the right department; no one answers the phone.
Should I just keep persisting? How long in advance do I need to arrange a visit? 1-2 weeks? I worried I wont have enough time to schedule a visit before my assessment.
Cheers
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I applied around the end of January.
It took about 2 weeks before I was asked to do the online test. But then it took around 6 weeks before I was contacted again, saying I was successful and to select a time for the phone interview.
It took about 2 weeks before I was asked to do the online test. But then it took around 6 weeks before I was contacted again, saying I was successful and to select a time for the phone interview.
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Constipated....
PM with your details and I will see what I can about getting our people to talk to your people and organise a visit - well worthwhile for you to see what you are getting into and a sign to those doing the interviewing that you made an effort...
TT
PM with your details and I will see what I can about getting our people to talk to your people and organise a visit - well worthwhile for you to see what you are getting into and a sign to those doing the interviewing that you made an effort...
TT
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TrafficTraffic,
Thanks for the offer, but I was able to make contact with someone from ASA and they said they will organise it for me and get back to me in a few days.
But if it falls through, Ill get in touch with you.
Cheers.
Thanks for the offer, but I was able to make contact with someone from ASA and they said they will organise it for me and get back to me in a few days.
But if it falls through, Ill get in touch with you.
Cheers.