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Old 28th November 2008, 11:51   #1781 (permalink)
 
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Got my email!!!

Got through stage 2 wooooo am so so over the moon

Cant WAIT for stage 3 now, interviews aren't my strong point but I will keep fingers crossed.

wooooooooooooooooo

Edit: took 9 days... for people who are waiting
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Old 28th November 2008, 12:39   #1782 (permalink)
 
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conrats jack.raven
did my S2 yesterday with three others (ggowgirl one of them), was told that I may hear today depending on workload so kind of sitting on tender hooks.

glasgowgirl, I’m totally the same, left yesterday with a sore head, but regardless of how it goes, I did feel quite happy afterwards, wasn’t as tough (excluding comp tests) as I’d thought. Just have to wait and see now. Fingers crossed for Richard and the other girl who's name I have forgotten as well.

GhostUK, not aware of any SHL tests for S2, (please correct if wrong), the comp tests on the day are done on an old laptop with a funny keyboard thing plugged in, easy to use though. Three tests run one after the other don’t think there is anything I could have done beforehand which would have improved my terrible performance.
The other parts of the day are a motivation paper; LEARN EVERYTHING in what NATS provide beforehand including S1 stuff, and it’s easy.
You then get an interview, not a proper one though because all the questions are set, so interviewer does not react to anything you say, just moves on the next question, just think about situations you have been in which you feel highlight the qualities you think you need to be an ATC, be yourself, don’t lie. (I do of course say all this without knowing if I have passed)
Was nervous at the beginning of the day but was with three other nice folk, and the HR ladies are really nice to you as well (excluding interview where they don’t acknowledge/look at you), felt relaxed and happy by the time I had left. Would advise you read all the posts on this thread but do not take them as gospel including this one, as I think i depends on the person and also the interviewer.
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Old 28th November 2008, 12:59   #1783 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for that mate, will do.

I wish you guys all the best with S2.
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Old 28th November 2008, 19:38   #1784 (permalink)
 
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I found out 2day that I managed 2 get through stage 2 and have booked stage 3 for Monday!!! 2days 2 prepare, any advice would be fantastic.
(different scenarios etc)
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Old 28th November 2008, 20:03   #1785 (permalink)
 
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At least it'll all be fresh in your mind on Monday! I had a week which came very fast. Get lots of sleep for the next three nights and read through the NATS website (Media centre links for current events!).

Back in Control is a very outdated article but I found it interesting to read.

When making decisions, consider safety THEN efficiency. Always in that order.

Good luck!
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Old 28th November 2008, 21:18   #1786 (permalink)
 
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I did my Stage 1 in Manchester on November 10th. I got an email less than a week later saying I'd failed.

NATS text me today saying they'd emailed me, I check my email and they sent me an apology for the last email and to ignore it because I had actually passed Stage 1!!! Crazy stuff! The high's and low's of this are mad! I never felt stressed during, or after, any exam ever, and I always did well - but this has really hit a nerve, I can't believe I want it so bad.

Anyone else got told they'd failed then on the 15th working day since their exam got told they'd actually passed?
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Old 29th November 2008, 15:07   #1787 (permalink)
 
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Thanks ar ni, good advice. Fingers crossed.
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Old 29th November 2008, 17:43   #1788 (permalink)
 
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Quote:
I did my Stage 1 in Manchester on November 10th. I got an email less than a week later saying I'd failed.

NATS text me today saying they'd emailed me, I check my email and they sent me an apology for the last email and to ignore it because I had actually passed Stage 1!!! Crazy stuff! The high's and low's of this are mad! I never felt stressed during, or after, any exam ever, and I always did well - but this has really hit a nerve, I can't believe I want it so bad.

Anyone else got told they'd failed then on the 15th working day since their exam got told they'd actually passed?
Nice to know HR haven't improved. I got a letter in 2002 telling me I'd failed the technical interview and then got a phone call a week later telling me I'd passed - my application had been put in the wrong folder and no one had noticed

Good luck to all of you people applying
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Old 29th November 2008, 17:55   #1789 (permalink)
 
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Just done the Personality Questionnaire. It was horrible. All the questions were basically the same, just worded slightly different. I didn't want to contradict myself but sometimes felt I was forced into it

How long does it take to know the "result" of this questionnaire?

Thanks again
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Old 29th November 2008, 18:10   #1790 (permalink)
 
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I'm quite afraid of the personallity test aswell.

The initial information that was included with S1 motivation paper, the personallity section at the end said to try not give any unsure middle answers...

But I've always been brought up to be a pretty modest person.. how is that going to reflect in the test?

Do I change my attitude and give extream answers? Or do I stay true to myself being modest in my answers and go agaist the advice given.

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Old 29th November 2008, 23:27   #1791 (permalink)
 
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I would not worry about that at all, GhostUK. Being a modest person is actually a good quality for a controller so just be yourself.

There are a lot of questions so, if you are honest, they'll see that trait of your personality in the result, which can only be a good thing.
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Old 30th November 2008, 00:09   #1792 (permalink)
 
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I did my personality test mid-afternoon on Thursday, and got my email to say I'd passed Stage 1 around lunchtime on Friday so doesn't seem to take long to find out the result.

My best advice is just to be honest in answering the questions (although there are a few I had real difficulty deciding what to put) - you don't want to get caught out for being dishonest, and if you're really the right person for the job, you'll get through (at least this is what I've been putting my money on!).

Question - how long between sending off full application form and Stage 2 day? Am I likely to be seen before Xmas?
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Old 30th November 2008, 11:39   #1793 (permalink)
 
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Back in September, it took 7 working days (with one weekend in between) from submitting the application to being invited to stage 2. Although, as far as I know, the figure varies sligthly on an individual basis.

In addition to that, paperclip810, you would need to then ckeck the dates available for stage 2 to see if you could have it before Christmas.
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Old 30th November 2008, 20:22   #1794 (permalink)
 
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Stage 3

Can anybody give me a heads up on different scenario's thrown at you in the interview?
  • Plane crash off end of runway
  • Planes not wanting to change FL's when heading towards each other.
  • T/D/S
Any others?

Appreciate it.
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Old 1st December 2008, 11:05   #1795 (permalink)
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Question Hi guys...

I've just discover this forum after my S1 (london 28/11/08) and i think my motivational test was not good... Somebody knows value of each test for general mark and how much they expect to pass S1?

Thanks so much...
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Old 1st December 2008, 11:27   #1796 (permalink)
 
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Arrow

check your pm's shugs
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Old 1st December 2008, 11:43   #1797 (permalink)
 
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could just be slow, but still nothing glasgowgirl.....
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Old 1st December 2008, 16:00   #1798 (permalink)
 
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Failed the personality questionnaire. What a thing to fail on ey!
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Old 1st December 2008, 17:03   #1799 (permalink)
 
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I'm really sorry to hear that mate... makes me even more afraid of the darn thing.
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Old 2nd December 2008, 03:07   #1800 (permalink)
 
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Sad times golf You're having a rough ride!

Saizen, I believe the motivation test pass mark is 70% and the aptitude tests might be slightly lower. I only answered 2/3- 3/4 of the cubes paper and passed, so make of that what you will.
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