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Old 4th June 2008, 00:25   #1041 (permalink)
 
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forgot about the holiday! ... hmm well hopefully tomorrow?!
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Old 4th June 2008, 11:08   #1042 (permalink)
 
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10th is the latest .............goodluck everyone x
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Old 4th June 2008, 15:42   #1043 (permalink)
 
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Just this second got the email asking me to do the Occupational Personality Questionnaire, was expecting to be waiting until last thing on Tuesday until then.
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Old 4th June 2008, 16:45   #1044 (permalink)
 
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As I suspected I did not reach the standard needed to be invited for stage 2. I have no doubt it was down to the spatial reasoning and maybe some of the diagramming at a push but hey ho that is life, There is always next year.

Now does anyone wanna give me some pointers on how to get my head around the spatial reasoning...lol
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Old 4th June 2008, 16:57   #1045 (permalink)
 
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Maybe we should set up a support group for that 15 day waiting period.

Hello everyone my name is James...

Sorry Craig, Like you said good luck next year

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Old 4th June 2008, 17:09   #1046 (permalink)
 
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Hi James,

I'm Dave!

FDD
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Old 4th June 2008, 17:12   #1047 (permalink)
 
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as suspected i also failed to get to stage 2! gutted!

see you there next year workman01!
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Old 4th June 2008, 17:31   #1048 (permalink)
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Hello all just found out I've been invited to do an online personality test I'm very happy to get through the initial tests (done in glasgow 19th 0930)

The thing I thought I would fail on was the 'Cube Nets' where I answered 28 out of 40 questions but I'm fairly certain I got 25 of them right or more. dont know if that helps any of you but I thought it might be useful to know.

I'm guessing the personality test is failrly straight forward but if anyone thinks they have a usefull tip please feel free to write it down.

Thanks KC
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Old 4th June 2008, 20:39   #1049 (permalink)
 
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Ocupational questionnaire

does anybody know what the occupational questionnaire means?

Does this mean I passed phase one???

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Old 4th June 2008, 20:49   #1050 (permalink)
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Damn

I was unsucessful at the first stage also, probably for the same reasons mentioned by Workman01. We need advice!
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Old 4th June 2008, 21:20   #1051 (permalink)
 
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Faztaz,

If you have been asked to do a Personality questionaire, then you have made the minimum grade for the initial tests - Well Done! But beware, coz you can fail the PQ!

I had my stage 3 last week and we took the opportunity to ask HR about it. It seems to be that if you pass the initial tests by a wide margin, then its pretty much impossible to fail the PQ. However, if you only just make the grade, then it is quite easy to fail the PQ. As at this stage you don't know how you did, then you can't know how easy it is to fail on an individual level. Savvy?

Hope this helps,

BW
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Old 5th June 2008, 09:15   #1052 (permalink)
 
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Spacial Reasoning practice

Workman01 - Just picking up on how to practice spacial reasoning. I've seen some people who can do it standing on their heads, but others can't. I was one of the ones who couldn't, and failed my first stage 1 for it.

I did find a way to practice though that worked for me. I worked at a car parts place at the time, and all our stock was weird shapes and angles. Every day, I would choose a new part and look at it from each angle once. Then, i'd try and visualise what it would look like rotating, upside down, 45degree angle etc. I did this until I got it right every time.
Next day - different part, and repeat the process.

After a while the part's became irrelevant, it was the ability to imagine something rotating mentally and not lose track of a particular mark, or which way a line ran over a surface etc, that I had learnt. The next year I did stage 1, the cubes seemed easier.

No guarantee it works for everyone, but it worked for me.

Good luck
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Old 5th June 2008, 13:46   #1053 (permalink)
 
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Hm Sounds good, I had thought maybe actually making loads of nets and trying it out that way and visualizing putting it together and different angles etc.

Anyone tried this method?
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Old 5th June 2008, 18:47   #1054 (permalink)
 
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Hour of pure confusion!

Cheers woozle mate, I just sat through that horrible personality questionnaire, I think im an overly confident, outspoken individual who likes numbers and analyses individuals obsessivly!

I hope thats what they're looking for

Now I just wait,
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR APP!
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Old 6th June 2008, 16:02   #1055 (permalink)
 
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Gutted!

Well i just got the result of my personality questionnaire and I didn't make it into stage 2...

I'm absolutely devastated and will deffinately be applying again next year.

Good luck to all.
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Old 6th June 2008, 18:19   #1056 (permalink)
 
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Yippeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Just found out that I passed my stage 3 - Bournemouth here we come!!! Can't stop bouncing round the room....yay!

If anyone wants any help or hints about going through the selection, just drop me a PM and i'll be happy to help!

BW

Btw, Gonzo is a real pusscat in an interveiw....if you know how to tickle his tummy!!!
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Old 6th June 2008, 21:39   #1057 (permalink)
 
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Stage 3

Well done Woozle!

Just found out I also passed stage 3. Very pleased! Looking forward to getting down to the hard work!

A big thankyou to PPRuNe and especially all the posters on this thread who provided fantastic advise.

NATS (especially HR) have been awesome

Good luck everyone!
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Old 7th June 2008, 00:02   #1058 (permalink)

 
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I honestly don't know how to reply to that one!!!!

I can't remember any tickling going on in any interview I've conducted in the past few weeks.....don't think my HR colleague would approve of that sort of interview technique!

Although......no, actually I won't say it!
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Old 7th June 2008, 00:10   #1059 (permalink)
 
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I'm sure some of the things people have said have tickled you - at least
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Old 7th June 2008, 00:15   #1060 (permalink)

 
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Oh, if you only knew...............

We could write a book on the silly answers we get.

One of my favourites, and this was a few years ago now, was one bloke who swore blind that a/c navigate from LHR to New York by following ships across the Atlantic.
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