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Old 21st May 2009, 11:40   #3241 (permalink)
 
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Why are you here and why aren't you an ATCO in hungary?
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Old 21st May 2009, 12:12   #3242 (permalink)
 
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ok forget it :]

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Old 21st May 2009, 14:09   #3243 (permalink)
 
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If you try to hide shit by burying it deep down beneath the sea shore, you can be sure it will eventually come back up... (I find that one quite funny). Just be honest, it's always best.

That's from my point of view anyway, gluck
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Old 21st May 2009, 14:21   #3244 (permalink)
 
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ok my question wasn't about that being honest or not

of course i'm going to say the truth.
my message was about if you got some good tips how to convince them i'm not stupid or inappropriate just because i failed the strip management.
that's all.
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Old 22nd May 2009, 09:40   #3245 (permalink)
 
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Just got the dreaded email for my Stage 2 results today, and failed .

This was quite a surprise to me actually as I thought I did really well. It goes to show how exceptional you have to be at this stage! I just hope things go better in 12 months time. The email says I can re-apply in 12 months but im sure people on here have said I can apply again 12 months from when I originally applied, which is January.

Thanks for all the help many of you have given me up till now. I just pray I dont have to return a 3rd time!
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Old 22nd May 2009, 12:40   #3246 (permalink)
 
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Daunting thoughts arise as we read your results! It's a shame, and wish you the best of luck next year!

People seem to be reapplying 12 months after they initially sent their online application form to NATS! So probably not far from now?! Sure HR will be able to confirm though.

I'm booked in for 2nd Stage on the 22nd June. Anyone else booked in for that Monday?
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Old 22nd May 2009, 13:01   #3247 (permalink)
 
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i had my stage 2 recently...i heard somebody else on that day didnt get through and i still havent heard anything yet, starting to worry.....expecting not to have got through!
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Old 22nd May 2009, 14:07   #3248 (permalink)
 
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Yes just heard i've passed stage 2.

Just tried to book my stage 3 but there are no dates available at the minute.
Anybody else encountered this problem?

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Old 22nd May 2009, 14:35   #3249 (permalink)
 
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when did u have ur stage 2 geordieboy?
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Old 22nd May 2009, 16:42   #3250 (permalink)
 
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Hi,

I sat my S2 on May 18th, just found out today that I got through!

Has anyone else who sat their S2 the same day got through?

Does anyone have any advice re S3 (I hear it's changed recently)?

Also, sorry to hear about Tim and Craig coming up short this time - try again next year lads.

PS I can also recommend the Fareham Travelodge, cheap and cheerful and only 5 mins away!

Good luck all
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Old 22nd May 2009, 18:07   #3251 (permalink)
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Howdy,

I'm due to attend the Stage 1 tests in a few days and was wondering how many of the motivation paper questions are related to specific aircraft details? Would anyone who has already passed stage 1 be able to provide a couple of examples?

I'm just wary of spending all of my remaining revision time trying to remember flight level stats and the difference in speeds between a 200 & 300 series Dash 8 lol!!

Thanks for your help!

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Old 22nd May 2009, 19:56   #3252 (permalink)
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Stage 1 Test Next Week

Hi there,

I have few queries regarding the test.

1. Is the aptitude test computer based??? And if so, can you back to the question you may have left out for later??
2. What types of question do they ask regarding the reading material that was given. i.e. basic one word or indepth descriptive answers.
3. Would I need to know the aircrafts and airlines section?? i.e. the aircrafts speed, flight level, seating etc
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Old 22nd May 2009, 21:43   #3253 (permalink)
 
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Absmahi,

1. No, it's on paper.
2. All questions have multiple choice answers (4)
3. Learn everything they sent you, plus have some knowledge of distances in nm between major cities and know how to do speed/distance/time calculations.

Hope that helps...
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Old 22nd May 2009, 22:04   #3254 (permalink)
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Nice 1 matey....
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Old 22nd May 2009, 22:34   #3255 (permalink)
 
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I received the e-mail on Wednesday that I failed massively at Stage 3. I knew I didn't do well, but at least I know the sort of Qs they ask and will give better answers next year.

To everybody at whatever stage you're on and failed, don't give up until the 3rd try
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Old 23rd May 2009, 00:46   #3256 (permalink)
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To everyone that recently got the dreaded email saying you didn't make it, don't look upon it as failure, look upon it as good experience! Now they've raised the age a bit gives you plenty of time to gain experience, although 12 months is long enough!

I failed on S3 the first time round, admittedly I was un-prepared.. Got accepted the second time round and looking forward to training.

Good luck to everyone who applies or re-applies!
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Old 23rd May 2009, 07:39   #3257 (permalink)
 
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Dim Sum,

Sorry to hear the news... I know you think you know why you failed, but have you asked for feedback? It's worth getting feedback from NATS - they might have picked up on things you didn't notice and could stand you in better stead for next year...
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Old 23rd May 2009, 18:00   #3258 (permalink)
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Hello,i've been lurking on here for a while, just looking and reading the info, which is great btw!
I have my stage 1 booked for 22nd June (had to rearrange cos of work and stuff, was originally in April, so have had lots of time to study the motivation paper!)
Anyways, I feel pretty prepared, thanks to you guys, but i'm just doing some practice S/D/T questions, and was wondering, what sort of distances between cities should i be studying? Like, London to European cities, or pretty much anywhere!?
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Old 23rd May 2009, 18:42   #3259 (permalink)
 
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Hi, when I did the stage 1 it was distances like london to edinburgh, london to brussels. Although they may have changed since then!
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Old 23rd May 2009, 19:55   #3260 (permalink)
 
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Hi Emilie,

Still got my fingers crossed for you, but I am suprised they leave you hanging for a week!!!!! Maybe check the online application system in case an email has slipped through un-noticed?

DimSum,

As others have said, definitly worth ringing HR and getting some feed back as to what part of your interview let you down. You sound like its not a big suprise, but it would be a shame to go through it all again and *maybe* tripping up again because you hadnt asked.
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