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From: Fort Worth ARTCC ZFW
US is a normal 8 hour shift, with a max of 10 hours. Must then have at least 8 hours off between shifts, so you can get off at 1430 and have to come back at 2230 for another 8. Can only work a max of 8 days in a row before you have to have 24 hours off, then start all over again... At least we don't have split shifts YET... Talk with the folks at NAV Canada about that one. Frau Blakey would love for us to be doing that too...
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Scott
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Scott

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At least we don't have split shifts YET... Talk with the folks at NAV Canada about that one.
36 hours/week. In an 8 week period max overtime is 96 hours paid at double time.
Periods are either 17on/11off x2 or soon 34on/22off, made up of variations of 6/4 6/4 5/3; 6/5 6/3 5/3 for the 17/11s or 5/3 x6 + 4/4 in the 34/22.
Normally not less than 10 hours between shifts, can volunteer to reduce it to 8.
Standard shift length 8.47 hours (8 hr 28m) agreed in new contract. Can be extended to a max of 12 hours.
Max 9 days in a row.
Its no where near as bad as people make out!
By choice I only work evenings and a full cycle of 6 nights every 3-4 months.

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From: Box Hill or Bust
All the UK Regulations can be found in CAP670 ATS Safety Requirements, Part D, Section . Go to www.caa.co.uk and click on publications to find the document.
Ohcirrej

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From: This is the internet FFS.........
We have a sort of split shift.........work 0645 to 1400 then back 10 hours later to start at 0000 again.
Not too sure what will happen with the new agreement/standard shift length thing.
Not too sure what will happen with the new agreement/standard shift length thing.

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From: Toronto
That's not a split shift Jerri. The shifts are on different days! That's what the company will tell you!
I think some of the smaller units may have had true split shifts where they'd work a few hours in the morning and come back for a few more in the evening. Never happened here though, thankfully.
I think some of the smaller units may have had true split shifts where they'd work a few hours in the morning and come back for a few more in the evening. Never happened here though, thankfully.
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From: UAE
Interesting thread. Made me do blow the dust off the covers.
Our roster has a 48hr cycle with a maximum extension to 55 hrs.
The cycles follow 6/4, 6/4, 6/2.
Shift length average is 8 hrs
Max rostered shift length is 9 hrs
Shifts can only be extended to a max of 10 hrs.
Minimum time between shifts is 10 hrs
If we work 7 shifts in a row or work to 55 hrs we have to have a minimum of 60 hrs off.
In any 30 day cycle we must have 3 break periods of more than 168 hrs.
Now that we do not have standby system we have no possibility of split shifts. Overtime is voluntary.
We have to take leave once a year with a continuous period of 20 days. With 56 days leave, no problem.
What I would also like to know is what is your limit to working on an operational position (radar and planner).
Our rules say that we have to have a minimum of a 30 min break after 2 1/2 hrs. With our traffic loadings it is a bit heavy, what is considered the norm within the regs.
Our roster has a 48hr cycle with a maximum extension to 55 hrs.
The cycles follow 6/4, 6/4, 6/2.
Shift length average is 8 hrs
Max rostered shift length is 9 hrs
Shifts can only be extended to a max of 10 hrs.
Minimum time between shifts is 10 hrs
If we work 7 shifts in a row or work to 55 hrs we have to have a minimum of 60 hrs off.
In any 30 day cycle we must have 3 break periods of more than 168 hrs.
Now that we do not have standby system we have no possibility of split shifts. Overtime is voluntary.
We have to take leave once a year with a continuous period of 20 days. With 56 days leave, no problem.

What I would also like to know is what is your limit to working on an operational position (radar and planner).
Our rules say that we have to have a minimum of a 30 min break after 2 1/2 hrs. With our traffic loadings it is a bit heavy, what is considered the norm within the regs.




