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Electric Sky
14th Aug 2003, 22:57
PM is leaving bmi for Gulf Air .... big loss for bmi, good luck to him :ok:

ES ;)

Mini mums
15th Aug 2003, 00:05
A great loss for bmi, PM is one of the good guys.
Perhaps he knows something the rest of us dont'? Is anyone aware what role he's going to fulfill?

Gulf is rapidly becoming Derby Aviation in the Desert, bmi on the beach. Perhaps that something Hogan could use in a re-branding?

Well, I wish him the best too.

Air Driven Generator
15th Aug 2003, 00:53
PM is a great chap, I don't work for bmi but he used to be the Chief Pilot at London City many moons ago when I was a young ops boy.

A great chap and no doubt will be an asset to Gulf Air.

Wish him all the very best.

JP

Anthony Carn
15th Aug 2003, 01:08
He's leaving for the desert and a certain workforce has it's head in the sand.

As Mini mums suggests, what does he know, or has simply worked out (and RH before him) ?

Go figure.

Red 69
15th Aug 2003, 09:20
Good luck Pete! Thanks for all that you've done for me and my colleagues. A true professional and a true gentleman. I can't say I blame your decision either. Difficult shoes to fill :ok:

fadec_primary_channel
15th Aug 2003, 15:05
Big loss to bmi, big gain to Gulf.

Basically one of the best, a good bloke. I would work for him anyday. Wonder if Gulf is recruiting??


Best of luck Pete.:)

moleslayer
15th Aug 2003, 19:55
I echo the sentiments above..............,

One of aviations 'nice guys'.

But.....more importantly , who will replace him ??

Is any one prepared to start the betting ?

Come on, lets have your names, who's it gonna be ?

Geoff could sure use some help on this one. :)

ps: please, nobody suggest :mad: , my ticker wouldn't stand it:D

Moley.

Little Blue
16th Aug 2003, 00:28
Oh ****** !:uhoh:

packsonflite
16th Aug 2003, 05:40
Any money on the Bald Biker? :uhoh:

Anthony Carn
16th Aug 2003, 18:30
Nothing surprises me any more ! :( :{

Puts Monty Python to shame, it does.

MaximumPete
16th Aug 2003, 19:22
I remember doing your DC9 conversion, which seems like yesterday.


A great loss to bmi!

Good luck in your new position.

MP:D

Fuji-san
17th Aug 2003, 22:19
PM's replacement ?, now that's a bit trickey........

Traditionally the "team" rarely changes, some come, titles are re-jigged, some go (but not forever).......to wait in the wings like cinderella always expecting 'the phone call' anytime now !!

Hows about (in no order of personal preference), let's use seniority for simplicity :

JS : it's been a long time since the DC9 'fuel guage' fiasco.

MS : ??? fill your own comments !

DM : been very quiet lately, could be a contender.

MG : likewise.

GL : may want the job back.

KJ : might go for a new challenge away from pure training.

SS : the 'quiet man'.

IC : "inappropriate" comment already made elsewhere on thread.

JR : a return from 'baby maybe'.

IL : my tip for the top.

DO : a strong contender? young enough.

RM : I know it'll never happen now, crying shame, retirement calls.

TB : may regret jumping ship for baby too soon.

PB : ?????????

JQ : the logical choice, but would involve major training changes.


OR.........

someone "unknown" say.........

PW, PH, BJ..............fill in your own initials.


Rhoada-Gorrocks.

Anthony Carn
18th Aug 2003, 00:11
Erm........did you join last week, Fuji-san ?

Some of those suggestions are downright hilarious !

Mind, I've said that before ! :(

Fuji-san
18th Aug 2003, 00:34
So let's hear your suggestions then AC ;)

Then we can all have a :mad: good larf :p

Rhoada Gorrocks.

MaximumPete
18th Aug 2003, 00:47
Fuji-san,

Congratulations!

You've hit the nail on the head. It's musical chairs time yet again.

I'm intrigued by your top tip for the replacement. Are you going to enlighten us as to why you think IL is the man for the job?

I've no idea who will get the job but I would like it to be JS or JQ.

MP:D

Fuji-san
18th Aug 2003, 00:56
Uncle Pete..........

This was not my 'top tip' for this post, this time round necessarily,

but my 'tip for the top', maybe some time in the future. ;)

Come on Anthony, lets hear your view.....



Rhoada Gorrocks.

Little Blue
18th Aug 2003, 06:09
Jeez...u members of the old school have a lot of
axes to grind!!!
From an Ops point of view, (if u think that holds any sway !!)
It's a huge shame that Pete has jumped ship to join bmi in the desert !
Whoever replaces him has a job and a half on their hands and will need to be able to stand on their own 2 feet..I know who I'd like to see in the job, but since when has a plebs opinion counted !!

Good luck Pete ! ;)

Anthony Carn
18th Aug 2003, 15:41
Jeez...u members of the old school have a lot of
axes to grind!!!
Well jeez, what a surprise -- I wonder why ???



So let's hear your suggestions then AC
Can I have a completely new list of candidates, please ?

From another airline, maybe !

It really is a shambles, is'nt it ?

Of the Fuji-san list, maybe some would actually be safer shuffling paper in the office where they can't do any real harm.

Only one name stands out as being of the sort of human being I'd want in my team and that's IL. First priority would be to send him on a karate course.

None of the remainder.

And you can have the best Ops management team in the world, but there's still a potential weak link getting in the way of turning that into beneficial results.

I really do wonder if it would matter at all if the chair was left vacant (AOC considerations aside) !

Anyway, you've got my one and only candidate. Happy ?

Terminal 5ive
18th Aug 2003, 17:09
Can I have a completely new list of candidates, please ?
Why don't you include yourself, AC?

Maybe the rest of your airline will become bitter and negative.

Anthony Carn
18th Aug 2003, 18:20
Why don't you include yourself, AC?
I repeat --

"And you can have the best Ops management team in the world, but there's still a potential weak link getting in the way of turning that into beneficial results."

Not for all the tea in China ! The words head, banging and brick wall spring to mind. Only aspirants who merely desire personal ego massage should apply ?



Maybe the rest of your airline will become bitter and negative
Are you certain that it is'nt already ? Do you have personal experience ?

Little Blue
18th Aug 2003, 18:25
Anthony,
U seem to have all the answers
so why not throw yr hat into the ring?
.
Then we can see who exactly we are dealing with !
.
U on SBU this morning?
;)

Mini mums
18th Aug 2003, 20:49
Ah, so Mr Carn . . . it's all a little becoming a little more clear. A Barry bashing a Nigel.

Shame really.

ducksoup
18th Aug 2003, 23:03
Funny thing that Max Pete, surely you were not even ON the DC9 when Pete M first flew the type as a First Officer?
Maybe you refreshed him some years later. Perhaps, even, just yesterday!

MaximumPete
19th Aug 2003, 00:09
duckie,

I did most of his LHS line training when he returned to the fold from LondonCity. It was his first jet command.

Time does fly when you enjoy flying as much as I do.

MP:bored:

Little Blue
19th Aug 2003, 02:01
Bloody 'ell PR,
U don't half take some stick on here...
At least you can riposte from the comfort of your own
comfy chair !

Stay happy !
;)

MaximumPete
19th Aug 2003, 02:08
I guess I must have p***ed off a lot more people than I thought or it's just one or two who like to use multiple names and pretend that they are the masses.

I suspect the latter.

Little green eyes perhaps.

I'm ex:mad: ing static

MP:p

Terminal 5ive
19th Aug 2003, 18:00
AC,

Yes I do have personal experience of bmi and a few years of it.

IMHO it is a minority who are bitter and negative.

They just make damn sure the rest of their colleagues know their feelings.

Each individual has his or her own reasons for it. Fine. I accept that.

But there are many people that appreciate and enjoy their jobs at bmi and are behind GL and his team.

PM leaving is a big big loss and I wish him all the very best.

I will support his replacement whoever it maybe, on the above list or not. I just hope they can continue to knock down the brick wall. Possibly a different wall that you are referring to, AC.

Little Blue
20th Aug 2003, 03:35
Anthony
You are very conspicuous by your absence.
Maybe you have been beavering away
with your application to replace Pete ?
In which case, we look forward to working
with you on a more 1-2-1 basis in the future?!
.
;)

Chalky
22nd Aug 2003, 20:50
It's official: it's SS - Who'd have thought?!! Will it make him more or less cheerful?:confused:

Chalky

Fuji-san
22nd Aug 2003, 21:05
So.........the music has stopped.

Unscrew the nameplates from the doors and shuffle them around !!

SS : chief pilot.

JR : 737 fleet manager.

TB : 737 training manager.

What do you think of that ? AC & LB ?


Rhoada Gorrocks.

Anthony Carn
22nd Aug 2003, 23:13
:ugh: :rolleyes: :bored:

Wake me up when you see any improvements as a result.

Care to predict any ? I'll pass.

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:



*PREEP PREEP...PREEP PREEP...PREE*

:ooh: "Uh...Hullo ?"..

"Hi, can I speak to XXX ?"

"Uhhh <rubs eyes> Speaking"

"Hi ! Sorry to disturb you in your rest period, but we've got a change................"



:mad: OK, forget waking me up .... I am already. :mad:

Electric Sky
23rd Aug 2003, 17:36
Thankless job in my view and has very large boots to fill. This appointment could have been a lot worse :uhoh:

Good luck SS

ES ;)

MaximumPete
23rd Aug 2003, 18:11
Well he had the choice whether to take it or not.

SS good luck in your new position.

MP;)

Little Blue
24th Aug 2003, 05:20
..at least it's not Anthony,....so not too many negative vibes
from the Queens Building monkey.....
.
;)

Anthony Carn
24th Aug 2003, 14:48
Little Blue.

A ----
Anthony.........we look forward to working with you..........
B ----
..at least it's not Anthony,....

You're confusing me now (in fact, on most other occasions as well). Keep it simple. Choose A or B. Don't improvise, you only mess it up. Which is it ?

( Happy now that I've taken some of your rather bland bait ? )

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Negative vibes ? It's lack of positive results you lot should be worrying about !

Still, if you're all happy with the current state of play, then that's all that matters, is'nt it ? There's nothing like a happy, contented, well led workforce. :rolleyes:

Little Blue
24th Aug 2003, 19:21
..U are easy to wind up...
It's unreal trading comments on this thread, especially
as u will have met me many many times.
Would love to know who I'm dealing with...
.
;)