down&out
24th Jun 2003, 02:15
Also on the NOTAM I front I saw this one today.
NAVW: FROM 03/06/23 07:00 TO 03/07/03 16:00 H3386/03
E) (MIL REF) AUS 03-06-0003/1790/KL
EX CLEAN HUNTER 03. LARGE FORMATIONS OF UP TO 40 FIXED WING ACFT
WILL OPERATE IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY 5000N 00400W-5700N 00400W-5700N
00200E-5430N 00432E-5130N 00200E-5107N 00200E-5100N 00128E-5040N
00128E-5000N 00015W-ORIGIN. OFFENSIVE, DEFENSIVE AND SUPPORTING
AIR OPERATIONS WILL TAKE PLACE. AAR, AEW, JAMMING AND CHAFF RELEASE
CAN BE EXPECTED. ACN 03-06-0001 DATED 11 JUN 03 REFERS. CONTACT
CAOC 9, 01494461461 EXT 2157/2714.
F)SFC G)FL240
To save you the hassle, If you plot the region you get all of the UK South and East of nearish to Inverness(yes in Scotland) up to FL240 for the next ELEVEN days.
Now I am ever keen to react appropriately to NOTAMs but this one's location is so vast whilst its implications so big (I would not know how to take avoiding action if I saw 40 a/c were coming straight at me) - I don't know what I am supposed to do to react to this.
Obviously keep a good look-out at all times, but that’s what is expected of me anyway. I admit I have not called the number given, but do they expect all pilots to do this each day to find out more precisely where the exercise might be that day - would they not become overloaded with calls?
So
1) any views on the effectiveness of this NOTAM and appropriate response of this.
2) also for my info what does "AAR, AEW and Jamming (what)" mean - I happen to know Chaff. Non of these are listed in the NOTAM abreviation section.
3)Anyone know what "ACN 03-06-0001 DATED 11 JUN 03" is and where I can get it?
D&O
PS I've got nothing against the RAF having big exercises, but surely if they are going to fly that many a/c in formation, we need a bit of a better location fix?
NAVW: FROM 03/06/23 07:00 TO 03/07/03 16:00 H3386/03
E) (MIL REF) AUS 03-06-0003/1790/KL
EX CLEAN HUNTER 03. LARGE FORMATIONS OF UP TO 40 FIXED WING ACFT
WILL OPERATE IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY 5000N 00400W-5700N 00400W-5700N
00200E-5430N 00432E-5130N 00200E-5107N 00200E-5100N 00128E-5040N
00128E-5000N 00015W-ORIGIN. OFFENSIVE, DEFENSIVE AND SUPPORTING
AIR OPERATIONS WILL TAKE PLACE. AAR, AEW, JAMMING AND CHAFF RELEASE
CAN BE EXPECTED. ACN 03-06-0001 DATED 11 JUN 03 REFERS. CONTACT
CAOC 9, 01494461461 EXT 2157/2714.
F)SFC G)FL240
To save you the hassle, If you plot the region you get all of the UK South and East of nearish to Inverness(yes in Scotland) up to FL240 for the next ELEVEN days.
Now I am ever keen to react appropriately to NOTAMs but this one's location is so vast whilst its implications so big (I would not know how to take avoiding action if I saw 40 a/c were coming straight at me) - I don't know what I am supposed to do to react to this.
Obviously keep a good look-out at all times, but that’s what is expected of me anyway. I admit I have not called the number given, but do they expect all pilots to do this each day to find out more precisely where the exercise might be that day - would they not become overloaded with calls?
So
1) any views on the effectiveness of this NOTAM and appropriate response of this.
2) also for my info what does "AAR, AEW and Jamming (what)" mean - I happen to know Chaff. Non of these are listed in the NOTAM abreviation section.
3)Anyone know what "ACN 03-06-0001 DATED 11 JUN 03" is and where I can get it?
D&O
PS I've got nothing against the RAF having big exercises, but surely if they are going to fly that many a/c in formation, we need a bit of a better location fix?