Hi All,

Just thought I'd give you George's contact details as some may feel he deserve's some show of support after a difficult week.

gallowayg@<hidden>

I am sorry but the guy does not require support.

I do respect George Galloway for his balls to speak out in what is a very muted and controlled Parliament, but in no way does he need messages of support.

He has wined & dined with the majority of the enemy for years and made a career out of it.

I see that you are not from then UK but realistically what do you see as a benefit of sending this guy messages of support ?

Lost_luggage.....

I suspect that Hans is being somewhat ironic in suggesting that George should receive our support!! ;)

I did have to smile, no doubt Lost Luggage was being equaly ironic??? Lost_Luggage you were... oh well never mind perhaps there will be a few messages for George, perhaps inviting him to take a new nationality and get some sun.

Couldn't we give the RAF his contact details, 'cos then (if the rumours are true) a GR4 could pop a lump of concrete/bomb through the window of his office... :O

are you suggesting the assassination of an elected representative of the good people of glasgow, UAS? nothing like a bit of totalitarianism, eh?

No, i'm just suggesting a nice low level trip up to Scotland...

And my little Tutor has a baggage capacity of 55kgs (check FRCs...), so i can only drop flour bombs...:O

If he'd said the equivalent 60 years ago he'd have been executed officially. Hope he does end up on trial. Nasty, self-important, self-satisfied little %$*#.

Well said!

George Galloway is a naive attention seeking back bench SOB whom was being played by Saddam like a fiddle in an attempt to undermine opinion in this country.

I heard him on Radio 5 this morning and he accused the BBC of hijacking the interview when they asked an Iraqi excile whom has had members of his family killed ,to pose a few questions to him .He couldnt take it, as it wasnt pre arranged He said he had many other programs waiting to interview him contactinghim on his bleeper...he went away with egg on his face.

He was just Saddams Iraqi controlled UK information minister

The only purpose George Galloway should have at present is to identify the real Saddam as hes on such good terms. The thought of an elected politician saying, on film, to his face, that he has adulation for Saddam turns my stomach. When Tony Benn visited him it was for genuine reasons as an ex statesman and well respected politition, and certainly no respects were paid.

Some of what he says is true, but to state that 100's of thousands of Iraqi civilians have been masacred by the Americans in their quest for oil is utter nonsense.
:mad:

When Neil Robertson, aka The Guvnor, posted Danny's home address and phone number here most of us thought that he was an unpleasant sh1t.

So what's the difference here?

Most people including me have a poor opinion of Galloway, but thuggish harassment demeans the perpetrators more than it influences the victim.

Chill. Galloway is history. Just like his pal with the moustache.

I believe it would be unwise and a little premature to state that GG and SH are history.

Now that most of the large scale fighting is over and there is more sweep-and-clear to come, I hope we will find SH's body.

If we don't, it could mean he will turn into a shadowy figurehead for muslims globally , a la Usama Bin Liner.

Same goes for GG. If he isn't kicked out of Nu Labour, and de-selected by his constituency, then he can continue to be an uttter Quisling for years to come.:mad:

Find it strange that anyone would suggest Galloway might be deselected for his Kelvin seat, given that he has been elected to it about five times with enormous majorities, and remember when Denis Canavan was deselected by his labour consitiuency of Falkirk (for having the barefaced cheek to be a socialist in the labour party) he stood as independent and stuffed the 'new' labour ringer. the same would surely happen if Galloway were deselected.

I have time for the guy because he doesn't necessarily toe the line and says what he believes to be right. He may have been misguided in his contact with hussein, but I don't think anyone can reasonable suggest that he was in support of the dictator rather than the population of his country. Galloway's opposition to the campaign in Iraq mirrors the feelings of a lot in his constituency and this country as a whole, and its still contrary to international law, such as such law exists.

Oh and I seem to recall that Rumsfeld, Bush Snr et al did plenty of wining and dinig of hussein in the past, but you don't see much about that in the Daily Mail, do you?

I'm going to move house now, in case someone decides to print my address too........

Source: The Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/22/ngall22.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/04/22/ixnewstop.html)Galloway was in Saddam's pay, say secret Iraqi documents
By David Blair in Baghdad
(Filed: 22/04/2003)


George Galloway, the Labour backbencher, received money from Saddam Hussein's regime, taking a slice of oil earnings worth at least £375,000 a year, according to Iraqi intelligence documents found by The Daily Telegraph in Baghdad.

JB rules of Engagement, no3:

Personal attacks on others because they hold a different opinion is not on. To be mortally insulting without getting personal is a artform. Acquire the skill. If you can not counter an argument without attacking the person, then do not post here.

He did deny it absolutely on a Radio 4 interview this morning. Well, he would wouldn't he?

Treason famously still carries the death penalty in this country..pity the justice system is too luvvie to ever carry it out these days :* he does after all sound like just as worthy a cause as Lord Haw Haw, who I believe expired with a length of rope round his neck...

Now I dislike GW as much as the next man, but I do think it is a bit strange that the room the documents were found in was burnt out yet the paper boxes in the room were completely undamaged. Seems like someone is trying to discredit him in the same way as Scargil was set up by the british government.

Secret Squire......I understand the death penalty has been abolished altogther now. It was on the statute books for 'High Treason' until 1997. However even if it was still nominally possible, European Law supercedes it (European Court of Human Rights I think). It is still nominally law on The Isle of Man, a man was sentenced to death there for murdering a child about five years ago but was not hanged because the next higher court overuled the sentence.

No doubt one of the lawyers here will correct me if I am wrong!

If this story is true, then Galloway is guilty of Treason. However I wait with interest to see if the Telegraph are served with a writ.

Doesn't treason only apply if you 'fraternise' (sorry, couldn't think of a better word) with the enemy after war is declared?

If not, then quite a large number of eminent Brits could've been tried after Sep 3rd 1939....

Also, what happened to "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it?".

Interesting that the "Media Lovies" are kosher when it suits the scenario you want to believe....as said before "lets wait and see"
Could it be that these documents were long in existance before the bombing of Min of In. and in the UK having been lifted by "our man in Baghdad" - its difficult to believe that Telegraph man just wanders into a burnt out building and low and behold in a shaft of sunlight - Bingo !

Send Clowns: Bit strong, surely, and its reading between the lines to suggest he was encouraging people to kill 'your' forces (as an Irish citizen, I can't really claim them for my own). Though I suppose how you interpret his comments is a personal matter.

Interesting how you can come to such a damning conclusion as to my character on the strength of one remark. I'm sure if Danny thought I was a 'sicko' he'd have my account on this forum removed. Seems that there are still a few folk about who can respect opposing opinions whilst maintaining their own.

Perhaps Galloway is entitled to a bit of due process. The allegations against him are so far uncorroborated. Would the contributers to this forum have a man hanged on the strength of hearsay? Isn't that what Hitler, Pinochet, Hussien did? Maybe we shouldn't bother with jury trials at all?

I have a feeling this story may unravel a bit when the Telegraph are called on to prove their story. Galloway will live or die by the result of the libel action, and then the largely uninformed prattle on this particular thread will matter not a jot.

God knows what I'll get called now.......

For him to call on Arabs to rise up and attack coalition forces does not require me to read between the lines to know he is calling for people to kill British servicemen. It is not only because I have friends in all four services, one of whom was killed in the first few days of the war, that I consider this offensive. It is disgraceful treason. A man was hanged for similar, when captured after the second world war.

That you are a sicko to suport Galloway's remarks is only my opinion. I can post nothing else here but my opinion or quotation of other peoples. We each have a right to our opinions, just in my opinion you must be a sicko to support a call for people to murder my friends.

If you read the posts here no-one is assuming Galloway's guilt in requesting money. He is being given more leniency than due process. I did say "If this can be shown to be genuine...". The rest was from his own mouth, his disgusting, sycophantic praise of a mass murderer. Why should he be shown due process? Do you think there is a media conspiracy to edit perfect reproductions of him spouting these things? If not then he said them.

This "prattle" seems rather more well-informed than you are about the character of this "socialist" who is hiding away in his holiday villa in Portugal. He has, aparently always been known suspisciously large amounts of money and suspisciously good suits. Maybe this is the source (he was forced to give back his expenses to the charity he had charged overblown expenses to, so probably pays his own way in 5-star hotels now).

Bahrainlad

Since he was interviewed on Iraqi television and made treasonous statements after the start of combat I think that is sufficient. Payments by a foreign intelligence service, if true, would be further to this.

Send Clowns,

Couldn't agree more with you and I sense your seething anger to be a mite more vitriolic than mine just now for the personal reasons you gave. My own feelings are swayed by the fact that out here in the Gulf just now, there is a sense of justification for suspicions held about this man but never acted upon properly.

Why are we only now censuring him for his all too close links with the fascist regime in Iraq ? Not many other political careers would survive that fawning, sycophantic ar$elicking speech he gave in Baghdad. The man obviously has no loyalty to the UK anyway.

See the other thread in the Mil section for some real acid !

However, your attack on BGPM is a wee bit strong for my taste because I don't think his rational comment to balance our emotional input is out of order.

That said, the fact that we are steamed up about the man and the evidence I think yet to come proves that his actions carry very little support or favour. I just think that the exposure should ensure that he now has a lot of explaining to do to Parliament, the Labour Party, possibly the Police and Security authorities and the Inland Revenue. I don't think he can escape a public forum to prove his innocence or otherwise anyway and that is a blow to his inflated ego.

For further interesting background reading, take a look at 'Private Eye' for 18 April - 1 May 2003, page 6: 'Iraqi Links'

In brief, it tells of the recent arrest in London of one Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi tycoon, and the attempt to extradite him to Paris to participate in a corruption trial involving TotalFinaElf. (Oil!)Seems that this may prove embarrassing to a certain 'business associate' who has been raising questions in the Lords about sanctions against Iraq. No, not 'Gorgeous George' therefore, but one Lord Norman Lamont, ex chancellor of the excheq.

Galloway was impressed by Lamont's stance and befriended him. In return Lamont attempted to introduce Galloway to Le Cercle, a secretive group of former intelligence agents and politicians and (allegedly) CIA funded. However, at the mention of Galloway's name, the Americans "went ballistic" and banned him from attending.

Auchi, who was a member of Le Cercle, is currently facing three counts of conspiracy to defraud. Galloway, who was once close to Auchi, despite the rebuff from Le Cercle, has since fallen out. However other prominent names currently on the payroll of this 'interesting tycoon' in addition to Lamont, are Lord Steel and former health minister Gerald Malone.

What an interesting little can of worms. Good old 'Private Eye', always worthwhile to read, I find.

Remember Arthur Scargil? The anti-christ baby eating loony who predicted the Tories would decimate the mining industry?Remember the tabloid (and broadsheet)vilification of this man? He recieved funding from the Ruskies !!How we hated him !
Turns out his predictions were proved to be correct(the truth was far worse) and the Ruskie story was a complete fabrication by the secret service who had infiltrated the NUM.(fact)
The same gang who whinge about the tabloids and "New Labour drones" feed off this drivel and resent a genuine free thinker who was broadcasting the horrors of Iraq when noebody else cared.He has never been an appologist for Saddam and that "I salute you.."clip (circa 1994)is always shown out of context.
He may have made a few unwise comments but GG's a much needed free thinker and voice in the wilderness of spin.
Total stitch up!

Yes, Homer, so Scargill himself set about destroying the industry with gusto to fulfil the prophesy. He is now blamed by many former NUM members for leading them on the strike for his own political gain. That is nothing to do with Galloway.

You cannot defend Galloway's comments. He called on Iraqi television for Arabs to fight against British soldiers. He has always backed the propoganda of this evil dictatorship.

Fair enough, Pilgrim. I find people who support indefensible retoric like Galloway's almost as bad as the original perpetrator. Either BGPM actually supports peoples' right to call on others to murder, and his support of a mass murderer or else he did not know what Galloway had said and is spouting opinions without the facts.

Now this thread has got SO much more interesting !!

Somehow I thought it might !!