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Tee
15th Mar 2003, 20:43
Setting aside all the current debate on the new NOTAM website, a simple question - where are you all getting your NOTAMS??

Simple answers please - the current debate (although very worthy) is way above my head. I don't know what a Q-line is and I don't care - I just want NOTAMS.

After many tears and tantrums, I can't make the new site work for me and I'm no longer prepared to sit for hours playing around with it.

So what are we all doing for NOTAMS these days??

Keef
15th Mar 2003, 21:08
I get mine from the Avbrief website. I ask for the relevant briefing - usually "narrow route". I copy the lot and paste it into a Word document.

Then I remove all the ones that are far far away (like Prestwick and Scottish FIR when I'm going from Southend to France), the Upper Airways and Flow Control ones, and so on.

That usually leaves about an A4 page that is relevant. I print it off and read it, and take it with me ready to show to the CAA police when they ask for it.

Until the CAA finishes the "sorting out" and provides the necessary feed for NotamPlot, that's the best I think we can do. "Works for me."

Chilli Monster
16th Mar 2003, 09:03
Same as Keef - use Avbrief, I believe the NOTAM service is only available to paid subscribers. However the cost is far outweighed by the benefits of the site.

Aussie Andy
16th Mar 2003, 10:31
I just use www.ais.org.uk and find I get on well with it after the initial effort.

Barney_Gumble
16th Mar 2003, 11:38
I'm with Keef and Chilli on this one. Subscription to AvBrief. I wonder whether AvBrief could have received some benefit in terms of more customers from the latest AIS web site changes.......Someone has to have done because most private flyers haven't :p

Barney

redsnail
16th Mar 2003, 19:12
I use a Norwegian (http://ippc.nais.luftfartsverket.no/ippc/AisAerodrome1.html) site. Notams, wx, charts. Simple to use.

Mike Cross
16th Mar 2003, 23:05
Get 'em at http://www.nats.co.uk/operational/pibs/index.shtml if you don't like www.ais.org

No password, no login, no javascript.

Full brief updated twice a day by UK AIS.

Remember if you get them from a foreign site you won't get all of them, only those that the foreign AIS chooses to include.

For example, tried the Norweigan site above for a briefing for EGTT - 3 pages. The UK AIS one runs to 16 pages. You don't get that much difference from formatting alone.

Mike

Aussie Andy
17th Mar 2003, 08:24
So the old A1/A8 style bulletins are available again on the NATS site..? When did this happen!

Mike Cross
17th Mar 2003, 11:56
Hi Andy

Last Friday

see http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80805&perpage=15&pagenumber=6
and see the post timed 17:38 on the 14th

It's not the A1/A8 but it is a full FIR brief.

No geographic sort, but that is on its way.

Mike

Aussie Andy
17th Mar 2003, 12:29
Democracy in action!!! :)

Thanks mrcross - I was away in the States and not able to track PPRUNE as often as usual last week..!

Kolibear
17th Mar 2003, 13:16
BRILLIANT- Real NOTAMS again

Thanks mrcross

Dusty_B
18th Mar 2003, 14:48
Thanks to NATS providing their static backup source, the AltAIS parser is now fully automated.

For those using NotamPro, this means that you can use it just as you used to - downloading your briefs from within the program.

AltAIS takes the London or Scottish Airfields and IFR/VFR Brief from the NATS website as appropriate, then wherever it finds an ICAO airfield code or Danger Area reference, it inserts the appropriate Lat and Long. Finally, it SORTS all of the Notams and Airfields by Latitude (the original brief is sorted alphabeticaly by ICAO code).

The four documents are available here:

London En-Route http://www.altais.org.uk/altais/auto/london-enroute.asp

London Airfields http://www.altais.org.uk/altais/auto/london-airfields.asp

Scottish En-Route http://www.altais.org.uk/altais/auto/scottish-enroute.asp

Scottish Airfields http://www.altais.org.uk/altais/auto/scottish-airfields.asp

Whereever you see a mistake or ommission please send me a PM and let me know how to correct it. There are a couple of erronious coordinates (mixed E for W etc), missing Danger Areas (north of Glasgow), and airfields (which didn't have an ICAO code when the source I used was compiled)....

Dusty_B
20th Mar 2003, 11:37
Sorry to the 20 odd folk that tried to use my new 'Alt.Notam' pages last night only to get a nice error message. :(

Problem Fixed. - I'd moved the files arround when I created the UK AIP index, and forgot to update some internal links. :O

Dusty_B