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Gunner B12
11th Mar 2002, 07:46
OK. .. .So I am about to take my GFPT and will of course have to do a passenger brief for the first time. I've usually got away with just saying that the instructor should consider himself briefed. I was wondering if anyone has ever come across anything on the web that would be useful for a ground briefing on a C152 and can you point me to it?. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

willflyforfood
11th Mar 2002, 09:31
Ummm.... .Theres absolutely nothing to passenger briefings, (Virgin Blue are living proof!). .Depending on what country you are in, I guess will depend on what you are required to say. Im not sure whether it is really a legal requirement at GFPT stage, but I guess it is still good practice... The main things you have to point out are:. .1) The use of Seatbelts. (how to fasten/release, requrements to wear them...). .2)Emergency Exits (where are they, how to operate them). .3) Smoking (is it prohibited?. .4) The use of Oxygen, where applicable. .5) Stowage of luggage (including hand luggage). .6) The presence of on board special survival equipment where applicable, (floatation devices etc). .. .The example given in the Australian VFR flight guide is:. ."The Law requires that you refrain from smoking on the tarmac and in the terminal, as well as during take off, landing, and re-fuelling.. .Your seatbelts are similar to your car's, and I would ask that you keep them fastened during take off, landing, and any other time I feel it necessary for your safety.. .The exit operates like this... and will only be operated on the ground.. .Please Stow your hand luggage underneath the seat in front of you or I can secure it in the baggage compartment.. .If you feel uncomfortable in any way, please let me know, and I will do everything I can to improve the situation". .. .This was taken from The Australian VFR Pilots Guide, Page 173.. .. .I do not know of any websites that cover pre-flight briefings. However, at GFPT stage, I can't see the tester expecting you to have it down to an exact science... If you get the basic jist of it, and get accross the important stuff, im sure they will be happy. . .I dont know what they expect at your flying school, but I have heard that a lot of people fail their GFPTs because they dont do a proper pre take off briefing, by going through the take off procedures verbally for example: "Enter rwy 10R, once cleared for take off, increase power smoothly, monitor engine gauges, any deficiencies abort take-off, rotate at 55kts, climb out at 75kts. 300ft, fuel pump off, 400ft, look out, 500ft, begin gradual turn to the left, for a departure to the north..". .. .Anyway, you probably already knew all of this, but I hope it is of some help all the same.... .Best of Luck with the test! I hope it all goes well!

Gunner B12
11th Mar 2002, 10:12
willflyforfood . .. .I have a check ride Tuesday and if all goes well the actual test on Thursday. I really wanted to put something together to help get it lodged in my head and to have something to use later. I was thinking of diagrams of planes and the like to put on briefing cards for said passengers to consult as I talk at them (well hopefully to them).. .. .By the way I'm in OZ.

VictorBravo
11th Mar 2002, 12:56
Not sure whether or not anyone will get upset over copyright, but your best source for aircraft outline is the aircraft manual. I did a cut and paste job with some computer enhancement, hand coloured it (didn't have a bubblejet available at the time) and got a home laminate pack (available from Woolies for about $5) to coat it. The CFI got the card on test day together with a sick bag with a note pasted on it saying "in flight catering" with a chocolate bar and an orange juice in it.. .. .He laughed, but it didn't help my bl00dy bodgy circuits unfortunately. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .. .Good luck with the test.

willflyforfood
11th Mar 2002, 13:56
Sorry.. i must have mis-understood your post... However. Even though it may seem like a helpful thing to have at hand, the last post, (i think), highlights an important point... That is, things like that will not help you pass the test. The best you can do, is to concentrate on passing the test, and not worry about safety cards, as they will more than likely not sway the examiners decision. Its not a hard test, but try not to get distracted away from the main point of the test, that is, to see if you can safely operate the aircraft without killing or endangering anyone. Of course, these are only my opinions... Once again, best of luck!

Bernoulli Belle
11th Mar 2002, 21:28
Have you been in an aircraft like this before? No? Then I would like to give you a safety briefing. The seatbelt is fastened and unfastened like this... The door on your side is opened like this... There is a fire extinguisher here, which is unclipped from its mounting here... There is a first aid kit here... In the event of an emergency in the air, I may have to make a forced landing. If this should happen, I will say 'brace brace brace'. You should then un-latch your door, tighten your seat and shoulder straps and adopt the brace position - hands on your knees, chin on your chest, like this... Once we have landed, evacuate the aircraft through the door next to you and move away from the aircraft as quickly as possible at a 45 degree angle and to the rear (ie away from the prop). Do you have any questions?. .. .I would have thought that would be enough to get away with!

Lucifer
12th Mar 2002, 01:01
In addition to the last post, which has the best summary of things to say, include that the passengers should not touch any of the flight instruments nor rest feet on rudders, unless under the supervision of yourself.

ImNot
12th Mar 2002, 05:24
Try and get as much of the pax briefing done in the flying club/briefing room, ask them if you can, most will oblige. UK and US examiners in my experience are happy to accept this and you'll find it easier than doing it in the aircraft, especially the forced landing brief.. .. .Avoid any 'props' such as diagrams, it is possible that they can catch you out with them and you could even catch yourself out. As a Pilot in command it should all be second nature (or made to seem that way <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> ).. .. .Finish up the briefing with something like 'Please approach the aircraft 45 deg from the rear' tell them that there is a danderous spinny thing on the front and that aircrafts of your type rarely reverse (Said with dead pan expression). Sounds silly/flipant I know but things like that stick in peoples mind and is important to remember. Let them know that there are other aircraft manouevering and that they have right of way.. .. .Once in the aircraft this is where having the guts of the briefing done comes into its own.. .. .You may find they have already fastened their seat belt, double check and remind them how to undo it, remind them it is just like a seat belt on large commercial aircraft. Look over at the door visualy and physicaly check it's shut (apologise as you reach over them dislodging their glasses and clipboard) and of course make sure they know how to open it. Then point out the first aid kit and fire extigusher (although if you don't have one don't).. .. . Remind them to keep away from the controls etc KEEP IT VERY VERY VERY SIMPLE don't give them a chance to catch you out.. .. .Tell them that you don't want to be distracted during the take off roll, if in the unlikely event of a 'PROBLEM' on the runway you will be applying maximum safe braking bringing the aircraft to a halt. If airbourne and with sufficient runway remaining you will be landing 'back on'. If there isn't sufficient runway you will be landing straight ahead making only small turns to avoid obsticals. (Followed by the usual exit the aircraft routine). . .. .Now speak to them as and examiner tell them that you will ask them to back you up on the radios or as they see fit (this covers you coz if there is a problem, there is a very good chance you will be quickly relieved of the controls no matter what anyone says).. .. .When trying to memorize the routine visualize it, sitting in your arm chair waving your arms about pointing to imaginary objects if it helps. It needs to be memorable for you. If it flows off the tounge a bad briefing will beat a hesitant good briefing hands down.. .. .Make it your own rather than trying to memorize a scene from Hamlet.. .. .You will not be failed on a bad briefing unless you feed them full of false BS (and probably not for that) so keep it simple. The examiner has heard more briefings than you have had hot dinners, don't make it too ,memorable you will impress no one. They could care less if you told them the ins and outs of a ducks ar*e. If you miss somthing, so what you will be prompted for it at some point Giving the impression that you know the score is good enough as far as this excersise is concerned.. .. .More to the point, don't forget to enjoy the flight, it costs you enough. If you pass you pass if you don't, you weren't ready. It is always a great learning experience. Good Luck!. . . . <small>[ 12 March 2002, 02:11: Message edited by: Im Not ]</small>

PanicButton
12th Mar 2002, 06:55
1) Operation of doors, especially on Pipers.. .2) Keep seatbelts buckled at all time.. .3) Point out fire extinguisher, if available.. .4) Point out emergency medical kit, if available.. .5) Point out maritime equipment, if available.. .6) Point out ELT and how to operate.

Pub User
14th Mar 2002, 04:23
Officially, a printed safety briefing will suffice, although the question: "are you familiar with this typr of aircraft" normally elicits a welcome response in the affirmative.. .. .See what you think of these:. .. .<a href="http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/Freebies/SafetyCard/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/Freebies/SafetyCard/index.html</a>

Gunner B12
14th Mar 2002, 06:23
Well...... .. .Test was delayed so I have a bit more time to get ready.. .. .Pub User. .. .Unfortunately the link doesn't seem to work but thanks anyway to all.

Tinstaafl
15th Mar 2002, 03:05
Your passenger brief is required to cover the following areas:

Seatbelts
Exits
Smoking
Emergency equipment
Use of personal equipment eg. mobile phones
Control seat pax not to interfer with the controls

Some guidelines to consider when giving your brief:

Avoid using jargon (eg. how could a pax. be expected to know what an 'aileron' is?)

Avoid 'padding out' the brief or the important information will be lost amongst the 'waffle'.

Give the brief prior to any start procedure (in case of fire). A good time is after the passengers board, you have completed supervising fastening seatbelts & doors and the hand luggage is stowed.

Avoid using terms that will make passengers more nervous than they may already be.

Give information that applies to ALL passengers first, then information that is passenger specific (otherwise the uninvolved passengers may not be listening when you give the rest of the information they require).

An example (for the PA28). Items in italics are things for you to do (not say).

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"For your own safety aviation regulations require you to:

* Fasten your seatbelt during take-off and landing or as I direct. The seatbelt is released by lifting the faceplate on the buckle. Show this

* The Normal exit in this aircraft is the door through which you entered the cabin. It is opened by moving this handle FORWARD and then moving this handle UP. Indicate appropriate handles

* Smoking is not permitted during take-off or landing or as I direct.

* An extinguisher is located in front of my seat.

* The overwater part of our flight requires lifejackets to be carried. They are located (place) indicate place). If necessary, the lifejacket is donned by …xxxx…(describe how). Don’t inflate the lifejacket until you have exited the aircraft.

* Mobile phones are not permitted to be used while airborne"
Now turn to the control seat passenger...

* "Ensure you remain clear of the pedals on the floor, the controls and the instruments in front of you and between us."