Pilot Assist Exam Results!!!!

[andpmatthews]

For all those of you out there who are tracking the progress of Pilot Assist College & for those few people who seem to be questioning their integrity I have some news for you all.

The first three students to take their first 7 ATPL ground school subjects have thier results.

2 Students passed all 7 of their exams and 1 student passed 5 first time, thats 19/21. Congratulations!!!!

Now feel free to question this, but from what I can make out that is a higher first time pass rate than Cabair, OAT & anyone else you care to mention.

Lets hope thier sucsess continues and first time passes keep coming in !!!!!

Keep up the good work guys & girls.. . :)

[Megaton]

A sample of three students is not going to impress anyone. I don't think Oxford or Bristol will be quaking in their boots just yet. :)

[andpmatthews]

I'm not saying anyone should be quaking in there boots. Everyone must start somewhere and its a very good one. Yes a now the standard is set we'll just have to see if they keep it up.

[gazelle507]

Well done to you students who passed. Pilot Assist have undergone some inapropriate coments in the past but now are vindicated. The college was well set up in the begining and now has prooved the viability of its existance. I believe any student training there will do well.. .Well done to you Rick, Roger and Bob.. .Are you exhibiting at the show?

[prob30]

Im not being funny but they have passed 3 of the easiest ones!

Well done anyway to both of them, but lets keep this in perspective!

[TomPierce]

I can hardly believe that PAC only charge £10 per hour for some apprently excellent classroom tuition. Well done to them, and very good news for the wannabes.

[PHANTOM-1609]

So I guess they now have some time to get the company accounts filed at companies house in accordance with the companies act.

No one ever did post a plausable explanation as to why they are overdue a year after the end of year.

When you do send them in, don't forget to post the cheque for the late filing fine.

FACTS NOT FICTION

[TomPierce]

Phantom.

There can be extraordinary and/or extenuating circumstances why accounts are not filed on time. Companies House have a way of dealing with this.

If you troll through any number on companies you will see that many are late. The secret is that you MUST let them know, then they make a decision.

[andpmatthews]

Phantom, you may have noticed that last time you posted something regarding Pilot Assist accounts that your topic was removed, remember?

So if these are facts which I do not doubt, they obviously do not stand up to the acusations you keep making about them or they would not have been removed!!!!

As you also should know if you are that business minded, is that a trainning college is no mean feat to set up, and for one in such infancy, can you real expect its accounts to look that strong anyway? (esspecially after sept 11th, they are still here arn't they.)

Student figures growth will show you how the college is expanding. You should then note if you have done your research that these numbers are growing on a very good level and so are its staff numbers and equipment. <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

[InFinRetirement]

Phantom.

You are way out of line!

UTC has made a point which is valid to thousands of companies at any given time. Just accept it, and stop maligning a company you obviously have a grudge against.

[PHANTOM-1609]

utc / f atpl

I do not have any grudge against pilot assist .com ltd t/a pilot assist college.

Like many other people on these forums I am merely posting items that 'could' have future implications for other members. Surely this is the whole point of this forum. My comments are all fact. If this not what these forums are for then danny should close the site.

utc / f-aptl

Any company listed as having accounts late for filing, have exactly that. They are all given ten months from the end of their financial year to send them in to companies house. Upon arrival at companies house they are barcoded the same day, as proof of filing has legal implications. Within a day or two the fact they have been received is posted on the web site in red. When they have been scanned in they are down loadable to anyone who pays their £ 4. FACT.

As a vat registered company pilot assist should maintain the books and records every three months FACT. They have now had 12 months to file accounts, but have failed to do so. This incurs a late filing fine FACT. There is only one way to aviod this, but this must be undertaken before the 10 month filing period. That would be to apply for an extention on the financial year and you can only do this once every five years.

And what the hell sept 11th would have on your ability to file accounts I dont know.

I wish all at pac the best for their aviation careers. . . <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

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[Flyingspaniard]

What's with that banner at the top of the wannabes page? It's making me cringe and no doubt the two poor sods pictured! Get it off!!!

Well done for passing first time... C if you can make it all fourteen and your banner might take ezjets place on the pprune home page!!

Good luck Charles and Rob! (sorry I hope I haven't offended anyone, except perhaps the marketing people at PAC) :)

[somewhatconcerned]

congrats. keep it up.

[Luke SkyToddler]

Well done to the chaps/chappesses that passed, and well done to Pilot Assist for what it's worth, not that I know much about Pilot Assist.

I have to say though, that I've noticed a big tendency on here recently when it comes to ground exam discussion - all these people are talking like they expect it's all got to do with the groundschool they choose, as though somewhere in someone's study notes is some sort of magic bullet that will give you all the answers and guaranteed passes.

Back in the day (a couple of years ago), when myself and the two other pilots I was studying with were doing the ATPLs (all self studying), none of us could afford a residential course, so we collectively pooled our resources and ended up using a collection of Bristol and incomplete PPSC notes for our navs, a combination of second-hand Cabair and PPSC notes for the techs, a New Zealand HPL book and some OATS, Bristol and Coventry practice papers. Just about all the above lot had gone through the hands of about 20 other aussies and kiwis, been written on and generally ripped to shreds, before any of us got our hands on them.

In my experience, I found all the notes from all the schools contained near identical material - certainly very similar, and in any case any of them were more than sufficient to get the job done if you actually sat down and read the things. In fact I'd say the only real differences between any of them were minor ones to do with presentation and the order of the material that each chapter or module covered.

It does cause me to raise my eyebrows a bit now, when I see the number of recent threads on here with people comparing the relative 'first time exam pass rates' of all these different groundschools. Exam pass rates are not like football leagues, and it's kind of pointless to try and treat them as ammunition to score imaginary points against other schools as some people appear to be set on doing.

The truth is that each school has its own set of circumstances (like the large number of OATS students for whom English is not a first language, for example), they've all got a certain number of very good and probably one or two not-so-good instructors, who will successfully get through to some people and not to others.

It's a bit unfashionable to say these days, but my opinion is that it's got sod all to do with the school and how many other students have got their 'first time pass', and it's got plenty to do with the desire of the individual student to pull their finger out and do some studying.

[Rowley]

Spot on Luke!!!

Just to add to that....Some schools require you take an entry exam before being allowed on the course to give an indication on whether you will pass the exams......other schools give people equal chance.

Just my opinion..

[signeti]

hey . .i dont mean to blow my own horn , but 10 of 11 in my class passed all 14 JAR exams first time. .the other only dropped one, that was in jerez , i dont know about oxford ,bristol or the others but the pilot assist claims dont impress me much

[Send Clowns]

I agree that the schools use very similar teaching material. I tutor ATPL students, and one of mine went on a Pilot Assist course. Some of the questions he came back with I had written :) I know how they got them, and it doesn't matter, just amused me.

By the way, knowing some of the instructors they have I should think PAC are good. Though your own hard work is most important, it is so much help if instructors care. The complaint I heard from an ex-SFT student who had joined another major school was that the instructors there weren't bothered enough, in contrast to a small, personal groundschool like SFT's. Well make them bother, with your own enthusiasm or by talking to the CGI if necessary. Or email me, and I will arrange any lessons you require with me or my acquaintances, all subjects covered by excellent instructors (many of whom taught me, all were my colleagues, so I can recommend them!). I guarantee our enthusiasm, I for one love teaching.