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24
4th Oct 2002, 09:16
The best one liner’s

What’s the best one liner you have ever used or heard to call in sick?

I heard one not long ago… before she had even left the hotel to sign on… “I’ve lost my ears!”
Gee… I hope she found them!… probably left them at the bar!

Another was.. “My cat has jumped off the balcony of my apartment!”
Wow... I hope she got someone to look after her pussy! That can't be good!:D

Put me down sick
4th Oct 2002, 09:33
:( 24 I hope your not getting personal?!

And as for my sickness I'll have you know that there is not a blemish in my roster. I love my job but....

flying_fox
4th Oct 2002, 22:45
I cannot stand people who work in Ops and always take it personally when people call in sick. Just do your job and get over it. It just so happens that crew have alot of contact with the travelling public who insist on flying when they are really ill. We, as FA's, tend to get sick! Duuuuuuh!

I told one smart @rse (who rudely asked me "why?" I was sick) that I had reeeeeeally BAD period cramps!! That shut him up! Serves him right - it's none of his business and shouldnt be asking.

For the record, most people in Ops are professional and dont go there.

DUMBSTRUCK
5th Oct 2002, 02:34
BEING ONE OF THE PITIFUL UNFORTUATE SOULS WHO HAVE TO MESS UP SOMEONE ELSES DAY WHEN CREW CALL IN SICK,THERE IS A REASON FOR ASKING WHAT THE AILMENT IS. NOT TO OFFER ANY MEDICAL ADVICE OR SYMPATHY YOU UNDERSTAND BUT TO ASCERTAIN THE SEVERITY OF THE ILLNESS,ESTIMATED RECOVERY TIMES,AND WHETHER THERES AN OUTBREAK OF PLAQUE GOING ROUND.ALSO WE GET A FEEL FOR GENUINE ILLNESS AND THOSE PULLING A FAST ONE.
PLEASE DONT BE OFFENDED I'VE BEEN IN YOUR SHOES AND CAN GRASP BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT,AS IS OFTEN THE CASE SOME SPOIL IT FOR THE MAJORITY BY HAVING WEEKENDITIS MORE THAN OTHERS.
HAPPY FLYING.

flying_fox
5th Oct 2002, 03:07
I dont have a problem with being asked how long I would expect to be off work when I am ill. That is a reasonable question and I can see how that would assist Operations in doing their job. I do have a problem with being asked what illness I am suffering! Quite frankly, it is nobody elses business except mine. The amount of time off is ALL that is required. Nothing else. In my opinion, asking for anymore details is just being nosey and offensive.

We, as FA's, used to be given the medical condition of a pax when they were flying with a medical clearance. Because of the new (and very recent) changes to privacy laws we are not given these details anymore. This can make it very difficult to anticipate any appropriate treatment to give to a pax if their condition should deteriorate - but we have to just run with this.

Operational staff are not excempt from the Privacy Laws. I am sure they are quite capable of sucessfully, and professionally doing their job without overstepping the mark!

Even if people are pulling a "fast one", who are you to judge? I would imagine you could become very bitter if you bothered to waste time wondering about it.

DUMBSTRUCK
5th Oct 2002, 03:30
FLYING FOX,OF COURSE I'M BITTER!!!
NOT SURE IF THE PRIVACY LAWS ARE QUITE AS RIGID HERE IN BLIGHTY, BUT SICKNOTES SPECIFY ILLNESS SO WHAT'S THE DEBATE?
AS TO THE ISSUE OF PULLING A FAST ONE I DON'T JUDGE BUT AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE PERSISTANT OFFENDERS ONLY MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR THEIR COLLEAGUES.IF I WAS POORLY SICK I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM DISCLOSING MY ILLNESS IT MIGHT MEAN GET WELL GIFTS!
P.S. I WAS TRYING TO BE LIGHTHEARTED NOT PERSONAL.

flying_fox
5th Oct 2002, 03:41
I totally agree with your opinion on people who abuse the system, however:

Sick notes do NOT specify illness.

The debate is privacy.







:)

SydGirl
5th Oct 2002, 04:16
Just in case there is an outbreak of plaque I recommend everyone take a toothbrush and toothpaste when on duty.

I am no medical doctor but I know a typo when I see one.
*Tongue firmly in cheek*

SG
:D

Santa'sLittleHelper
5th Oct 2002, 04:48
Footy Fever

Last weekend in September 2001, what a great weekend.

:D :D :D :D

Put me down sick
5th Oct 2002, 06:57
Foxy,

You sound as though you have many a tale to tell about your OPS department?
I agree it is not any of their buisiness to know what is wrong and most of the time I feel guilty at the thought of having to consider calling in sick. Although I never have called in sick I have heard that some of the other crew have been treated poorly and made to feel like crap for doing so.
I will however say that I had to sit in OPS one time and couldn't belive the number of calls they got from crew calling in sick and some did not give any regard to the amount of notice they gave. I suppose thats why I always get called on airport duties to cover a 3 day trip at the last minute! It is however very upsetting to see girls getting away with what they do in regard to this matter. On a recent trip my CS was laughing at the fact that she called in sick whilst away on her last trip and that no one had questioned her about it.
"For every action there is a reaction"
Of course OPS are going to react to you calling in sick and sometimes their response is not very positive or professional but you sound as though you are very familiar with having to make that call? If so I thankyou for allowing me to get more in my pay packet each month.:D

leemo
5th Oct 2002, 08:19
Hi flying fox,

Operations should NOT be asking you what is wrong with you when you call in sick.

The FAAA puts out memo's every so often advising us that all crewing need to know is that you are sick and will be off from work for 'x' amount of days.

My sick notes do usually have a brief description of what has been wrong with me when I have been sick. i.e. URTI but these go straight to a PDM (at Qantas anyway) and crewing don't get to see them.

If your crewing dept. are continually asking people whats wrong with them you need to contact the FAAA immediately so they can, yet again, pass on the message to ops.

flying_fox
5th Oct 2002, 21:22
You're not even a Flight Attendant so why even bother making a response. (I have checked your previous posts (aLL 3 of them) and you're what we regular PPruners call a fake or just a trouble maker.)

It was dead easy to pick 'cause Flight Attendants (as a rule) stick together.

MY posts were speaking on behalf of Flight Attendants as a whole - regarding the issue of respecting privacy when we call in sick.

YOUR post is attacking me! Listen Darling, just because I am standing up for Flight Attendants here, I dont need YOU judging me that I pull sick everytime it is your Birthday!!!! Get real.

Re-read my posts. Try not to go off on your own tangent, jumping to conclusions (for the average caring Flight Attendant we dont find that too hard) and look for the point I am making - it is a fairly obvious one!

:rolleyes:

Or, quite simply, just go away.

;)

24
5th Oct 2002, 23:33
Dear Flying_Fox,

It sound like you have certainly got a few "issues" that you feel very strongly about. I am sure your OPS team understand that you are in the situation of dealing with many guests daily, some of which should not be travelling due to their own bad health but have a thought for others. When I say others I mean your Team, your work mates, your friends. Dont pull a heart muscle to suit your social life and if you do keep it to yourself! Boasting about it to your work mates only makes you look childish and makes other belive it is okay to do what you have done. (Flying Fox, nothing personal)
I will however ask you Flying Fox.... who did you call when you lost yor sunglasses or you makeup bag or your float or maybe you even lost your overnight bag?..... My money would be on OPS! Of coarse lets call OPS they'll know where your bag is!:D

Back to the thread... this thread was meant for us to have a giggle at some of the comments people have made to get out of going to work!

FACT: One cabin crew member has by her phone a list of twelve excusses as to what to say to OPS as to why she cannot go to work when they call. That is 12 before lunch and 12 after lunch! I'm sure we'd all like to see that list:p

Fiction
6th Oct 2002, 07:26
As a professional crewing person I have personally taken hundreds of calls from crew citing a variety of excuses for not reporting for duty from the common cold to 3 classics.

1....Crewmember..... "I am upstairs in my bedroom, and I think there is a burglar downstairs"
Me "well call the police then" !!!! she did and the police caught the intruder.

2...Cremember...."I think I'm pregnant".
Me "well go and see your doctor then"...she did, and she was.

3...Crewmember...."I have run out of petrol on the way to the airport"
Me, no standbys, so I jumped in my car and picked her up.

I look at it this way......without crew I wouldn't have a job!!!!!!So keep reporting sick and make my life as miserable as possible.

Thankyou

:cool: :cool: :cool:

tottyhighflyer
6th Oct 2002, 13:30
You must have heard some classics Fiction! I was on stand by recently and decided to phone just about everyone I knew to block the line and crewing sent a cab to my house to get me to phone work! I have been flying for 8 years and get called nearly every Sunday morning so weekenditus is very contagious and we really need a cure. If you don't want to work weekends don't fly and don't moan about it that really p****s me off!

yankee charlie
6th Oct 2002, 19:39
At Easy if you are sick you have to do the following

Call the sickline
Call crewing
Call your manager
and they call you to check as you must remain contactable while you are off sick

On you return

You get a well being chat, need to fill a form and finally you get a verbal warning.


It`s not that Easy :D :D

FloatJockey
7th Oct 2002, 00:54
Yankee Charlie, I hope you're jokeing!
I recently applied with Easy and I have an interview in November but, if what you say is true... I'd better think twice about it!
Not that I am trying to become a F/A so that I can call sick whenever I want but still! If I'm sick, I don't mind calling 3 different numbers, but the "verbal warning" when you return... it is completely out of place!! :eek:
Would this method be Easy's way to scare the cheaters every now and then (when they smell the rat) or is it a normal procedure from Ops?
You gotta be kidding here!

Mrs. FJ

p.s. I remember hearing a story about a non-official ex-Ansett employees' X-mas'Eve dinner, where suddenly, after a few glasses, C.C. were taking their mobile out of their bag and calling Ops one after the other, coming up with all sorts tragic excuses... very contagious "plaque"... :D Ciao Smiley!

MIss Behaviour
7th Oct 2002, 15:26
Flying Fox

We, as FA's, used to be given the medical condition of a pax when they were flying with a medical clearance. Because of the new (and very recent) changes to privacy laws we are not given these details anymore. This can make it very difficult to anticipate any appropriate treatment to give to a pax if their condition should deteriorate - but we have to just run with this.

Pax only receive medical clearance if a doctor or in some cases a nurse certifies that they are fit to travel. If their condition is of a serious nature they are have a doctor and/or nurse as an escort on the aircraft. It is none of your business what medical condition they have as they are under the care of trained medical staff for the duration of the flight. If you have no medical qualifications then why would you be wanting to ascertain treatment to give to a pax? You make yourself out to be Marcus Welby MD! :rolleyes:

I do have a problem with being asked what illness I am suffering! Quite frankly, it is nobody elses business except mine.

Why is it Flying Fox, that while you expect pax to divulge their illness to you at the same time take the high moral ground about your illness being no-one elses business? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. :eek:

crundale
8th Oct 2002, 10:40
Best excuse from a hostie I got in crewing was "typhoid". She then phoned up the next day without a hint of shame and declared herself fit to fly.
Great recovery, surprising considering the number of small diseases she caught, so obviously had a weak immune system. ;)

Tarantella
11th Oct 2002, 12:04
In my experience, most crew don't like to go sick. Even when they are sick, so often they come to work with a "niggling" cold or flu, and pass it on to their colleagues- hence the rash of crew "sickies" that seem to go around at one time. Or they put off calling in sick, because they think they'll feel better in the morning - but when they wake up feeling like death warmed up, they then have to call in sick at the last minute.

In my company, If you get sick and miss the start of a trip, you are pay protected for the hours you should have worked, minus the days of sick leave you took. (and 1 sick day's hours does not necessarily equal one flying day's hours. e.g. 3 sick days = 12 hours. 3 day Narita trip = 24 hours, leaving you 12 hours work you 'owe' the company.)

This means that you can then have your roster disrupted, your replacement trip then disrupting your next trip, and so on and so on. (This equates to a 9-5er coming in on the weekend to pay back the days they were sick during the week).

WRT: passenger's medical privacy. Yes, they are supposed to get medical clearance to fly- but often they don't. It's then too late when some-one falls unconscious, to a) ask them what medical conditions they suffer or medications they are on ,if any, and b) why they aren't travelling with their own nurse/doctor. :rolleyes:

A little bit of respect for the profession please. Most F/As perhaps all ( in Australia anyway) have first aid training, and in some cases- Qantas in particular- certain crew members are trained to use the heart start machines we carry on board.
Marcus Welby we may not be, but in some cases we are all that stand between life and death in medical emergencies on board. There isn't always a doctor in the house!

T