AW139 ATO

[TunaSandwich]

Hi there
Does anybody know of an ATO which can provide ICAO(FAA) IR to EASA IR conversion on the AW139 (aside from Leonardo in Italy)?
Thank you

[Camp Freddie]

I think Karen SA do as well

[TunaSandwich]

Thanks!
Any others?

[Camp Freddie]

Copter safety in Helsinki

[Mustapha Cuppa]

TunaSandwich

Are you enquiring about the initial issue of an EASA IR(H)?

[TunaSandwich]

Copter safety in Helsinki

Hi Camp Freddie, Copter Safety do not offer this service.

[TunaSandwich]

TunaSandwich

Are you enquiring about the initial issue of an EASA IR(H)?


That is correct, ICAO Conversion..

[Mustapha Cuppa]

I am not aware of an ATO that offers an initial IR(H) course on the AW139. Usually, an IR is conducted on a "cheap" ME helicopter such as AS355 or A(W)109

As you probably are aware, you will need to attend an ATO that is approved for the initial IR rather than one that merely adds existing IR privileges to a new type.

[Milo C]

Leonardo Helicopters delivers initial IR(H) on the 139 FFS.

[Mustapha Cuppa]

Thanks, Milo C.


I stand corrected.

[Camp Freddie]

Leonardo Helicopters delivers initial IR(H) on the 139 FFS.

I wonder how the cost of this compares to the traditional 355/109 route, I am guessing its pricey

[TunaSandwich]

Leonardo quoted me £50,000 to add the 139 rating and ir to my licence. And i am already twin IR rated.

Plus its six weeks hotel you have to pay for too.

Ie far more expensive than the traditional 109/355 route for low timers.


Just to clarify, I already have the AW139 EASA Type, just need the IR ICAO conversion...

[tottigol]

Leonardo quoted me £50,000 to add the 139 rating and ir to my licence. And i am already twin IR rated.

Plus its six weeks hotel you have to pay for too.

Ie far more expensive than the traditional 109/355 route for low timers.

Six weeks?
for a type rating that needs four?

[EESDL]

He told his missus 6

[Milo C]

Just to clarify, I already have the AW139 EASA Type, just need the IR ICAO conversion...

In that case I think you need just a Proficiency Check

[matteolo]

Contact karen-SA, they provide all type of AW139 TR and add-on, and they are also an ATO for initial issue or conversion of IR.
With them you can also fly on the same FFS that leonardo use in Italy.

[TunaSandwich]

In that case I think you need just a Proficiency Check

Hi Milo C
Do you have a reference for that? my EASA examiner said that as I already had the EASA CPL, he could only give me the VFR ATP/Type Checkride based on my FAA ATPL, CAA are no longer answering my questions on the subject:*
Thanks
TS

[Hot_LZ]

TunaSandwich,

Can you confirm a few things. You are an FAA ATP with 139 experience? You also hold EASA CPL with an AW139 TR but only VFR privileges? You would like to get an EASA IR and add IF privileges to the 139 TR?

LZ

[TunaSandwich]

Hi LZ
Mostly correct except that I now have an EASA ATPL with AW139 Type but no IR
TS

[Hot_LZ]

How can you have an ATPL without the IR? I'm assuming you have completed all the ATPL exams and have used the IF experience required from operating elsewhere?

I believe you will find it difficult and expensive to complete an EASA IR on the 139. It's perhaps worth researching a course on a more common IR type like a 109/135/355 and timing it before your 139 PC where you can then get the IR add type?

LZ

[TunaSandwich]

Yep, got an EASA ATPL with 139 type. Had to do the LST to avoid losing the ATP theories which due to the 7 year rule were about to expire. The ATPL part is separate to the IR (I believe to allow VFR pilots to fly large types for fire fighting in Europe etc..as in Canada). So now the licenses are either CPL or ATPL with or without IR privileges. Yes I have the EASA IR theories current and current IR flying elsewhere.