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COLTFLYBOY
3rd Oct 2017, 06:58
When flights are dispatched with a filed destination alternate and should there be a need to change this to another one in the air, is it mandatory to inform the ATC? Can the ATC refuse to accept the request?
After God only you is the master on board not ATC...go where a valid reason takes you!
clear to land
3rd Oct 2017, 07:45
ATC is part of ATS-Air Traffic Services. They may NEVER make an operational decision for you-that is ALWAYS the crews prerogative. If they say Clearance not available and you need it guess what -you declare PAN and go anyway!
ironbutt57
3rd Oct 2017, 10:11
ATC is part of ATS-Air Traffic Services. They may NEVER make an operational decision for you-that is ALWAYS the crews prerogative. If they say Clearance not available and you need it guess what -you declare PAN and go anyway!
been there, done that
ricfly744
3rd Oct 2017, 19:35
I believe this would only apply in case of communication failure and destination being closed.
So then, you must try to follow what is filed. Try, as other variables may be more relevant then follow this rule. So, we do what is needed in our best judgement.
crewmeal
4th Oct 2017, 05:37
Who decides on an alternate at the briefing? You or the O'Learys of the airline?
Flyboy010
4th Oct 2017, 06:53
For dispatch only the destination alternate has to be filed with ATC, once in the air you decide where to go.
simmple
4th Oct 2017, 08:36
When I have been stuck in the hold etc with a high probability of a divert ATC have always asked me my intended divert destination. I have never been told go to filed airport, that’s in Europe.
Icarus2001
4th Oct 2017, 09:00
They may NEVER make an operational decision for you-that is ALWAYS the crews prerogative.
Except in countries that exercise operational control.