Joining Emirates [Archive]

OurKing

5th Oct 2016, 05:10

Good Day,

I am a 37 year old Chief Pilot of a Bombardier Challenger 601 in Portland, Oregon, USA. I have approximately 7000 hours total time, of which 5000 hours is jet, and 4000 of that is PIC.

After recently visiting Dubai on a flight, I fell in love with the city. After two days of staying in the area, I knew that I want to move there.

At this point, it is my career goal to get a job with Emirates. I just love int'l flying, and there was something about Dubai that really tickled my fancy.

With only corporate flying experience, what is a good next step career wise to get on with Emirates? Will they look to hire me with only corporate experience, or should I join a regional airline in the USA for a few years to build airline experience, while simultaneously having my application into, and updating it, with Emirates? Please, any wisdom and suggestions to get on with Emirates would be very welcomed.

Does Emirates have a hearing test criteria to be met? One of my ears is 100% good, the other has about 50% hearing loss (thank you aviation). Will this be sufficient for Emirates?

Thank you, and looking forward to hopefully flying with many of you soon!!

glofish

5th Oct 2016, 08:14

OurKing

Concerning your hearing problem i would be careful. I have a similar one and the constant being sent to a specialist every year is wearing out. In this region they (EK and the GCAA) work with very generic medical tables and if you do not fit in, they send your to a GCAA approved specialist in a blink of a second. Now the quality of those specialists, to remain politically correct, is very widely spread on the Richter scale ..... Plus any pre-existing condition is duly noted around here and any future treatment difficult to obtain.
I would not recommend a move to this region with even a small dent in your medical record.

On another note, i suspect you might also have a eye/reading problem. Considering the other EK threads on this site, i can't fathom any sane colleague applying to EK no more. :ugh:

electricdeathjet

5th Oct 2016, 08:25

I'm not going to say anything about EK, enough information here for you to make up your mind!

As for the medical, they are funny about preexisting issues so might be a problem.

Why not try Execujet, they have a base here, you might slip in quite nicely

buggerall

5th Oct 2016, 08:57

Being 37, i.e. 2 years above 35 you are good to go. You will be very welcome here as that is an important criteria. In fact no PIC over the age of 35 has ever bent a jet at EK!

(Question. Are you just a regular troll or are ur veins full if costa caffeine?)

Talparc

5th Oct 2016, 09:42

Ourking:

you are really funny, go back to costa nothing to see/hear here.

Iznogood

5th Oct 2016, 09:49

Gentlemen (especially new joiners), until further notification, kindly avoid asking anything about EK

The Outlaw

5th Oct 2016, 09:51

Our King,

I am a 50 year old Captain of a Airbus A388 in Dubai, Dubai, UAE. I have approximately 22,000 hours total time, of which 15000 hours is jet, and 12,000 of that is PIC.

After recently visiting Portland on a flight, I fell in love with the city. After two days of staying in the area, I knew that I want to move there.

At this point, it is my career goal to get a job with anyone else. I just love fun flying, and there was something about the USA that really tickled my fancy.

With only commercial airline flying experience, what is a good next step career wise to get on with your company? Will they look to hire me with only commercial airline experience, or should I join a executive operator in the USA for a few years to build experience, while simultaneously having my application into, and updating it, with your company? Please, any wisdom and suggestions to get on with your company would be very welcomed.

Does your company have a hearing test criteria to be met? One of my ears is 100% good, the other has about 50% hearing loss (from years of listening to endless BS). Will this be sufficient?

I propose you and I simply switch jobs. The 601 and the A380 are almost identical...they go up, they come down and if you're lucky they do so without leaving a trail of debris on the runway. I bet you wear a white shirt and black trousers...hey guess what?...so do I ! Same Same!

PS...I'll need your passport as well.

White Knight

5th Oct 2016, 11:02

Outlaw. 'kin hilarious😂😂

Flyboy_SG

5th Oct 2016, 11:32

OurKing, you got to live Atleast a year in the concrete jungle to feel what it is. And what world are you going to see in a 22hr layover ? Stay where you are.

I'm 35, flying the 777s in the desert and would love to have your place for half the wages. Enough said.

notapilot15

5th Oct 2016, 13:59

OurKing, you may be overqualified.

Goal is to have a cadet program of rookies on Cirrus-SR22 to Phenom-100 to A380. Per unidentified sources, they allegedly asked Embraer and Airbus to have cockpit similarity between A380 and Phenom-100.

OurKing

5th Oct 2016, 15:26

OurKing, you got to live Atleast a year in the concrete jungle to feel what it is. And what world are you going to see in a 22hr layover ? Stay where you are.

It's not about what I am going to see on a 22-hour layover. I want to come to Emirates to do the FLYING that they do. Nothing sounds like more fun than to live in Dubai and do ultra long range flying. I guess you could say that it is the glamour of that type of flying that appeals to me.

Upon hiring, how long before I'll be able to hold a line flying Dubai to US flights? For example, flight 229 & 230.

I've watched the recruitment videos for Emirates, and it seems like the possibilities at the airline are limitless. Do most who retire from Emirates stay in UAE, or move back to where they're from? Is there a visa issue with staying after retirement?

CTWO

5th Oct 2016, 16:05

Best post ever!

@Ourking you are a definitely a troll...you are lucky Spanish inquisition is over...they used to burn the heretic!

Jack D

5th Oct 2016, 18:19

Outlaw one of the most amusing & creative responses in a long long time ! Have you considered a future career in scriptwting ? You have opened the door for similar imaginative responses , love it !

Twiglet1

5th Oct 2016, 18:39

Outlaw
You must have put that together in the cruise! You should get another job.
Our King - about the ears, sorry say again...

SnowPilot

5th Oct 2016, 19:03

OurKing send me a PM I can't PM you for some reason will give you some info.

777boyindubai

5th Oct 2016, 19:10

Troll.com LOL! Great thread!

FL XXX

5th Oct 2016, 20:15

Our king.

It sounds you are an EK management individual trying to provoke a discussion here. In case you are not, you must be suffering from a serious lack of common sense.

OurKing

5th Oct 2016, 21:14

OurKing send me a PM I can't PM you for some reason will give you some info.

I cannot send you a PM either... Is there an email address that I may use to contact you?

GoreTex

6th Oct 2016, 02:12

I was a 50 year old 380 skipper and left EK because its runned buy some crazy people who have no idea what they are doing

natops

6th Oct 2016, 02:43

EK is desperately looking for new pilots on multimedia.

LinkedIn, Facebook and now here on Pprune as well!

Who, with half a braincell, would ask for such info, without having read the threads about EK...

Guys being demoted without a reason, no inflation correction since forever, bidding system not existing anymore, never have vacation at the same time as the rest of the family, etc etc.

Castle-dwellers need to come up with something better than this...

N.:ok:

OurKing

6th Oct 2016, 04:07

Guys being demoted without a reason, no inflation correction since forever, bidding system not existing anymore, never have vacation at the same time as the rest of the family, etc etc.

This is the first that I've definitively heard the information above. I have been reading the threads here before registering, but because this forum is written with such cryptic wording, it's difficult for an outsider to truly know what is being said. For example, I assumed that the GCAA passed a reg that made it unlawful for an under-35 year old to fly as PIC. Bidding system being non-existent, I did not know. I assumed that people not getting what they bid was a case of too many flights with not enough pilots wanting to fly to each destination, so being assigned other than what they bid. Never a vacation at the same time as the family is a shock to me, especially because Emirates seems to control the schooling of the kids.

I will continue to monitor this thread and read more posts. But perhaps in the meantime, folks who are currently living in Dubai and flying for Emirates can speak openly in here, rather than cryptically.

Buford

6th Oct 2016, 04:50

Pequena_Inquieta

6th Oct 2016, 09:30

The new Aniston ad is like a recruitment ad! 😂😂 Btw, can't wait for all the ankle-biters to try sneaking into First class now...particularly on those US flights where no-one's supposed to go between cabins.
I've had that once and I'm pretty sure it was an US flight. The mother was looking for the teenage daughter like crazy and no one could find her. I asked if they had checked first class and the SFS arrogantly replied "of course!". Turned out she WAS in first class for one hour or more eating all the snacks. She sneaked in from forward stairs. I'm sure the FG1s were very busy doing their nails to not notice the extra passenger.

CTWO

6th Oct 2016, 12:42

This is the first that I've definitively heard the information above. I have been reading the threads here before registering, but because this forum is written with such cryptic wording, it's difficult for an outsider to truly know what is being said. For example, I assumed that the GCAA passed a reg that made it unlawful for an under-35 year old to fly as PIC. Bidding system being non-existent, I did not know. I assumed that people not getting what they bid was a case of too many flights with not enough pilots wanting to fly to each destination, so being assigned other than what they bid. Never a vacation at the same time as the family is a shock to me, especially because Emirates seems to control the schooling of the kids.

I will continue to monitor this thread and read more posts. But perhaps in the meantime, folks who are currently living in Dubai and flying for Emirates can speak openly in here, rather than cryptically.
Be a MAN for once ... come out of the gully-hole and put a face behind your nice posts ...do not hide yourself in social medias...

natops

6th Oct 2016, 13:31

Speak openly and get fired.

sluggums

6th Oct 2016, 14:15

Quite frankly OurKing, join, or don't join. Nobody cares. To ask what this gig is all about shows how little initiative you've shown doing prior research. Or am I being cryptic...?

notapilot15

7th Oct 2016, 13:38

Be a MAN for once ...came out of the gully-hole and put a face behind your nice posts ...do not hide yourself in social medias...
This is what bothers me, astroturfing is illegal in most countries but most companies do have people with paid relationships doing the same pretending to be normal social media users.

nolimitholdem

7th Oct 2016, 22:15

Just in case some aren't familiar with the term: (source Wikipedia)

Astroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by a grassroots participant(s).

It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial connection.

The term astroturfing is derived from AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to resemble natural grass, as a play on the word "grassroots." The implication behind the use of the term is that there are no "true" or "natural" grassroots, but rather "fake" or "artificial" support, although some astroturfing operatives defend the practice (see Justification below).

OurKing, more like OurLatestTroll in a long line of 'em. Come on. No one is fooled.

Outlaw - that was brilliant!

The Outlaw

8th Oct 2016, 05:58

CRYTIC WORDING OFF

Our King,

I just spoke to my boss. He said that I should grab any chance I got to fly a 601. He was puzzled why anyone would want to leave a 601 job to fly a 380 in this region but hey, night flying and 100 hours per month will get you all that time you need for the ATPL.

Any word from your boss about switching yet?

You know that with a 380 endorsement you can just kick down the door to any flying outfit and tell them them how to run their business...they actually welcome criticism from a 380 guy...its just that extra insight that makes us in demand in this market (but keep that a secret or the 777 guys will want this higher learning as well). Your boss would know this and I'm a little perturbed that he hasn't rolled out the red carpet yet...I'll be sure to debrief him when I get there.

PS... I'm still waiting on your passport, I'm disappointed that I haven't received it yet. Anyhow, do to a recent policy change, I will also require your bank account details, pin number, visa number and CVC code, key to your house and car... small price to pay for glamour and all that great EMIRA....wait the phone is ringing..."hello?.....yes...sure!....I will....yes...B'bye" That was Jennifer...she was asking when you were coming?

CTWO

8th Oct 2016, 06:16

OUTLAW for president!!!

The Outlaw

8th Oct 2016, 06:17

2 EK guys getting briefed by management until CM rolls in on a motorcycle...

https://youtu.be/F-VnIwvY47c/

puff m'call

14th Oct 2016, 06:45

It's simple.

Stay where you are!!

gmezzi

16th Oct 2016, 05:43

Hi dear,
can I have your staff number?

Jack330

20th Oct 2016, 15:22

Once a serious company, most of the guys that passed the last DEC screenings completely, had been offered a FO position.... Hilarious !! This could've worked 10 years ago and not for sure at 50 yo... Hahahaha

notapilot15

20th Oct 2016, 16:19

Outlaw great video. Came across this one courtesy to YouTube auto play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s-MnvKIqb8

The resemblance between Bedrock city and Dubai is shocking, there is even talk about four engine planes.

Plane and simple

20th Oct 2016, 19:04

Come here. We have a happiness park courtesy of our ministry of happiness....

See. Everybody is happy🎈🎈🎈🎈

http://m.thenational.ae/uae/environment/happiness-park-opened-in-dubai?

The Outlaw

21st Oct 2016, 00:06

notapilot,

That is pretty funny and yes, there are a lot of similarities between Bedrock and "the city of happiness" such as cave men, neanderthal practices, houses made of rock and stone age mentality! All men Bedrock wear the same goatskin suit...sound familiar?

I particularly liked the references to the local women and men of Bedrock doing housework and chores....PFFFFTTT!!! I suppose Kumar and Mandeep hadn't made it to Bedrock at that time.

One think is for sure... Al Redrock is going to get his ass handed to him by Christoph Monzonite...sooner the better!

OurKing

21st Oct 2016, 01:04

I have submitted my application. How long does it typically take to be reviewed and subsequently begin the process to interview?

I was at SEATAC this week and saw an Emirates 777 parked. It brought back my time in the UAE over the summer. There is something almost sentimental about talking to UAE Control approaching DXB, and equally so, hearing the friendly "inshallah" from the other aircraft and controllers that makes me feel like I've found what I'm looking for in life ... respect, dignity, folks who are polite to one another.

The Outlaw

21st Oct 2016, 01:44

No Prob OurKing ol' boy....I will advise the company head shrinks to look out for you. I'm sure they wont have to go too far.

Have you considered a saliva test for your own self interest? Or is this more a a "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" sort of thing?

Anyway...I'll be making sure you are never left alone in the flight deck...

The Outlaw

21st Oct 2016, 01:54

Hey...King'y ol' bean,

I've noticed a blatant disregard for my real offer of changing seats/type/company...did you think I was joking guv'na?

Why go through all that assessment crap when I can walk you into the CPAB office and tell him that you're going to be the new Grand Exalted Executive Poo Bah on the mighty 380 (better than a 777, faster than a rolling "O", able to leap a capital "T" in a single bound...its a bird, its a plane, its Superking"!!

I'm one bad ass connected MF MF....MF....

nolimitholdem

21st Oct 2016, 02:03

that makes me feel like I've found what I'm looking for in life ... respect, dignity, folks who are polite to one another.

Yes, you have astutely identified the ideal place in the world to find these qualities. You will particularly like the respectful, polite, dignified folks on SZR.

Enjoy! :)

(You rhymes-with-banker.)

The Outlaw

21st Oct 2016, 02:12

NoLimit,

He needs help....lets face it he will be the next in the 4000 or so pilots who say..."I just didn't think it would be so fu@ked up here"!

You cant argue with people like this....let them come...we'll have a good laugh when they wake up to reality!

The Outlaw

21st Oct 2016, 02:13

Pretty funny though...respectful...dignity....polite...all in the same sentence even. Must be some good stuff he's got!

The Outlaw

21st Oct 2016, 02:16

OurKing,

If you're coming anyway....

Buy as many houses as you can in "the land of happiness".

Also....send me your banking details as requested earlier...I'm trying to help you get those funds out of Nigeria!

felixthecat

21st Oct 2016, 05:20

It has to be a wind up :) ......

OurKing

21st Oct 2016, 05:28

Thank you for the PM's I've received giving me the information that I seek. Fortunately, I'm aware that a few folks here tend to air the same grievances over and over. There are always a few bad apples in every bunch, and I know to dismiss the information when it's clear that the one sharing it just likes to complain.

Pride is important to me. Managing my principals aircraft, I take a lot of pride in what I do. I always do the best that I can, and treat the aircraft like it is my own. Likewise, I'd do the same with an emirates aircraft. When I was at DXB over the summer, hearing the proud ones refer to their flight as "Emirati 123 super" or the like made me feel a connection; a connection of being proud of our jobs, and proud of the country. There are few airlines like EK that are left, and I hope that I'm selected to continue forward with the selection progress. I will not let you down.

CAT3A

21st Oct 2016, 06:34

Now this is scary......

120feet

21st Oct 2016, 07:17

It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.

natops

21st Oct 2016, 09:03

😂 you just dont make this sh!t up 😂

Ourking is old swahili for:
'He who feels connected'

Must be a windup indeed.

Mr Good Cat

21st Oct 2016, 16:19

"Emirati 123 super"

That's not a recognised ICAO callsign is it? So don't be too proud my old...

Plane and simple

21st Oct 2016, 18:15

That's not a recognised ICAO callsign is it? So don't be too proud my old...

Only the Emiratis call it Emirati. So I guess OurKing has given away his nationality 🇦🇪

FoxForce44

21st Oct 2016, 21:46

Mein gott...

OurKing

21st Oct 2016, 23:04

That's not a recognised ICAO callsign is it? So don't be too proud my old...

Of course it isn't. But there's nothing like national pride, and a slight change of call sign to say you're PROUD of what you do and who you fly for is no harm at all.

fatbus

22nd Oct 2016, 02:58

Who is this guy?

OurKing

22nd Oct 2016, 03:36

Who is this guy?

Hello, my name is Rich. I have my resume in with Emirates, and hope to get the golden call soon!!

natops

22nd Oct 2016, 04:59

😂 You cant be real King, put down yr personal Costa coffee mug, and go to work mate...

nolimitholdem

22nd Oct 2016, 05:12

I'm really hoping it's a windup, because the creepy way he writes suggests the alternative is that he's the sort that hopes to wear an Emirates pilot's skin as a suit.

Tip for Rich/OurKing: Remember, it's only identity theft if you use their debit card. Be smart about it.

McNugget

22nd Oct 2016, 07:26

...the creepy way he writes suggests the alternative is that he's the sort that hopes to wear an Emirates pilot's skin as a suit.

Classic prune👍

PukinDog

22nd Oct 2016, 23:05

It's not about what I am going to see on a 22-hour layover. I want to come to Emirates to do the FLYING that they do. Nothing sounds like more fun than t o live in Dubai and do ultra long range flying. I guess you could say that it is the glamour of that type of flying that appeals to me.
....
I've watched the recruitment videos for Emirates, and it seems like the possibilities at the airline are limitless. Do most who retire from Emirates stay in UAE, or move back to where they're from? Is there a visa issue with staying after retirement?

Comedy gold :D

glofish

23rd Oct 2016, 00:46

No, not comedy gold.

It's tragic.

The Outlaw

23rd Oct 2016, 00:46

Wind up or not, this guy is scary even if he is a costa dweller...something about his posts just don't add up.

I've already alerted a guy I know in HR who will pass his IP and history to the relevant departments...even they know something is rotten in DK.

OurKing

23rd Oct 2016, 01:00

SOPS

23rd Oct 2016, 01:31

This is getting very strange now.

OurKing

23rd Oct 2016, 02:13

This is getting very strange now.

Are you saying that because usually Emirates doesn't hire with only corporate experience?

bogeydope

23rd Oct 2016, 02:27

It looks like Emirates is very interested in me. I logged onto Facebook this morning and a sponsored posting appeared encouraging me to apply at Emirates for a pilot position. Things are looking good, I think!

Whatever you're smoking, can I have some??

It must be some awesome stuff!!!!! :ugh::ugh::ugh:

OurKing

23rd Oct 2016, 02:34

Whatever you're smoking, can I have some??

It must be some awesome stuff!!!!! :ugh::ugh::ugh:

Ha. Just submit your application. You never know, maybe they'll call you too!

FoxForce44

23rd Oct 2016, 07:43

Don't feed the troll guys....

fatbus

23rd Oct 2016, 12:32

He is now on the avoid list!

OurKing

23rd Oct 2016, 15:18

Haha,

I must say Ourking did keep me guessing for quite a while whether he was a wind up or just mentally disturbed. But post #63 gave him away; he is a wind up. Nobody is that dumb. At least I hope not.
I hope not to meet you once I'm flying the line. One bad apple CAN spoil the bunch, but I'm going to choose not to let it.

FoxForce44

23rd Oct 2016, 16:01

Life Vest

23rd Oct 2016, 16:13

Thank you OurKing and Savior, so subtle but brilliant.

Haven't had so many laughs for ages. :D

Consol

23rd Oct 2016, 16:27

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGGN9p0RZI
He wants to be like these guys.

OurKing

23rd Oct 2016, 18:14

"It's" just a silly brat flying his Microsoft 747 wearing Ray-Ban sunglasses and pretending to be a pilot. Our profession is funny....I never seen before a wacky pretending to be a doctor, nor lawyer....
Pretending to be a doctor:
Police: Man, 18, arrested for pretending to be doctor - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/health/florida-palm-beach-teen-doctor-arrest/index.html)

Pretending to be a lawyer:
Law Firm Partner Charged After Pretending To Be A Lawyer For A Decade | Above the Law (http://abovethelaw.com/2015/03/law-firm-partner-charged-after-pretending-to-be-a-lawyer-for-a-decade/)

Me? I'm an FAA rated ATP. Hoping to be GCAA rated A380 or B777 before long.

felixthecat

24th Oct 2016, 11:41

If your real your doing a great job of making yourself look like a fool or a troll.

But

If your fake your giving me and the rest of the EK guys a great laugh, keep it up :)

(I personally believe its the second case :) )

777-200LR

24th Oct 2016, 12:39

OurKing

24th Oct 2016, 15:45

How do you know a chief pilot is sitting at the bar....he'll tell you!

No one starts a post "I am a chief pilot":D:D:D:D
You'll see how 'interested' EK is in you when you're doing your sim check and they say turn left and you turn right.
Why would I turn the wrong way?

If you'd recommend doing so, due to accents or multiple instructions simultaneously, I'll wear a kneeboard and write down all my instructions.

Do most guys at Emirates wear a kneeboard in the cockpit to write down instructions?

luvly jubbly

24th Oct 2016, 15:47

[QUOTE=OurKing;9551442]Why would I turn the wrong way?

If you'd recommend doing so, due to accents or multiple instructions simultaneously, I'll wear a kneeboard and write down all my instructions.

Do most guys at Emirates wear a kneeboard in the cockpit to write down instructions?[/QUOTE

Help me..... my sides........😂😂😂😂😂

Spikedog

24th Oct 2016, 17:06

Why would I turn the wrong way?

If you'd recommend doing so, due to accents or multiple instructions simultaneously, I'll wear a kneeboard and write down all my instructions.

Do most guys at Emirates wear a kneeboard in the cockpit to write down instructions?

What a silly question! Of course we do. Kneeboard, helmet and oxygen mask.

OurKing

24th Oct 2016, 18:15

What a silly question! Of course we do. Kneeboard, helmet and oxygen mask.
The helmet and mask are company provided, or will I need my own? If I need to provide my own, is there any certain fitting that I need to tap into the aircrafts oxygen system? Or, do I need my own oxygen bottle too?

AllDaysAreSchoolDays

24th Oct 2016, 18:31

The helmet and mask are company provided, or will I need my own? If I need to provide my own, is there any certain fitting that I need to tap into the aircrafts oxygen system? Or, do I need my own oxygen bottle too?
OurKing,

Helmet is provided by the company - But you will have to think of a catchy callsign before you come. Unfortunately 'Maverick' and 'Iceman' are already taken.