The Email

[The Outlaw]

Has anyone seen or heard of some email floating around which was written by the brother-in-law of his cousins 3rd (current) wife's ex dog groomers maids third uncle removed?

The gist is that CM has an office on the 4th floor and has been here for 6 months already and answers directly to HH Shk Mohammed, who apparently wants his EK back to the company it was 20 years ago, retain staff and make it a company that people love to work for. Sounds impossible I know and would require a top down re-fit of managers.

It sounds a little like the yearly rumours about profit share...who knows maybe its the same author!

[fatbus]

Don't get your hopes up . Would be great if it was true. Chinese whispers !

[Odins Raven]

Don't get your hopes up . Would be great if it was true. Chinese whispers !

Whilst it is great to reminisce about the 'good times', EK has dug itself a hole in the way it has gone about its business the last 10 years or so... Since the GFC money is owed to the big brother down the road and will any profits really be reinvested into terms and conditions for expats? If rumours are true about the worst first quarter in history, then drastic savings are to be made. Would like to think that the thousands of 10am-3pm faux-positions that have been created in the office for Emiratisation purposes would be the first thing to look at but I just can't see it.

Hope I'm wrong and CM is given the free reign to sort it out properly.

[kumul1]

I got the email/msg as a cut and paste on a Whats App group. Sounds like it was from a flight deck member who heard it from his/her local purser on a flight. The purser was apparently invited with a few other locals to have a chat with CM and a few issues were discussed.
Outlaw has the guts of and I'll try and post the rest once I've figured out how to do it????

[777boyindubai]

"Hey Buddy, had a fascinating chat with our very senior local Purser last night. He and a few locals were invited for 4 hrs to speak with Mueller 2 days ago. I will try to pass on the main points.

He was very impressed with CM. very pleasant and very chilled guy in a pair of jeans and shirt for the meeting.

He has been working here for 6 months literally full time.

HE IS WORKING FOR SHEIKH MOHAMMED.

The Sheikh wants EK back to how it was 20 years ago, a company people want to work for so they will tell their friends and people will want to come and work here. This is more important than the money (so he said)

He is experiencing a lot of resistance within (obviously) to change. He would rather convince people to change but if they don't he will enforce it.

He is producing a master plan/project to change the company he needs to present it to TC when ready but doesn't need approval from him as he can go directly to Sheikh Mo.

He has barely even got an office by the lift in HQ on the 4th floor, nobody really wants him there because he is a threat to everyone's job in HQ but he will soon have the fourth floor entirely. Apparently his office is very open to visitors, very visible to see what he is doing! It's all presented on the wall apparently.

He is working on a massive project which is to fix EK. He thinks it's a great company but entirely mis-managed/dos-organised/non-productive. He has seen virtually everything within the company. Sat discretely within virtually every department from cabin crew service area, to DNATA, to Rostering to scheduling etc. He has witnessed employees going to the service centre and receiving no help. He has witnessed people having to go through countless people to achieve the simplest things!

His opinion is that virtually every way the company is run is absolutely bonkers and crazy. He said we have far to many people who do nothing and not enough people that matter ( front line staff/us) pilots and cabin crew included in this. He has confirmed the hrs we work are crazy! Rostering does not work at all. It's a crazy system and must change. Virtually all of the departments do not work and it all has to change.

He said EK (departments are enormous for no reason at all) it's huge and he will make it all small. To many middle and high level managers.

He agreed Accomodation is ridiculous, how can it be reviewed only every 2 years, when it depends on how the actual cost of living is changing. There is no reason to freeze people's Accomodation moving right. Why?

Many many more things. It was a really open meeting, nothing he is doing is secret. I am sure we will receive a communication from him soon to invite contact.

He clearly sees the problems and is planning the required changes however significant they are. He appears to have the ultimate authority to act on behalf of the Sheikh's wishes , HH knows EK is in big trouble and needs to change. I think AAR's days are numbered because he will not be able to change.

He knows they must stop people leaving. Hopefully he can do it in time.

Don't shoot the messenger. Just passing on from what the purser said, who was face to face with Mueller 2 days ago. The skipper and I were laughing our socks off. I don't know how long it will take but it seems massive changes are coming for the better as the driving force from HH is for employees to be happy working for EK again.

Time will tell. If you stick around.

No idea how will effect us, package, upgrade. Just that CM will want to retain people that make the airline run and get rid of the dead weight. CM even commented that 8 TRE'a have just left! Why he said. They should have the best job in the company!!"

[bigdaviet]

The best thing in all of this is the capital letters.

If true!

[donpizmeov]

There is greater chance of being able to use the aircraft again after a management pilot's landing than the above post being true.

[notapilot15]

CM need to follow his own instinct, ie., change is not possible with current management.

HH can make CM's life easier by signing up a huge documentary series contract with Discovery Channel/National Geographic on "How to build a successful Airline". Send TC and his followers to London for 6 months to manage its production. He will be busy giving interviews to Sir.Quest and Sir.Morgan over Tea and Biscuits, CM can clean up the house meanwhile.

If that doesn't work process exit visas and let UAE air force jets (preferably flown by female commanders) escort Business Jet out of its airspace. That will give morale boost female cabin crew members.

Tow Indians on dingy boats out of its territorial waters and place a courtesy call to Indian Embassy and let their Navy rescue them.

[ExDubai]

There is greater chance of being able to use the aircraft again after a management pilot's landing than the above post being true.
Hey at least it's a nice fairy tail ;)

[TOGA!]

I am starting a FOREX scheme. Anyone interested, forward your Bank details via private message and I will get you enrolled.

Better yet, if it turns out to be true, I will buy everyone a cold beverage at the Rattlesnake when the dust settles.

[ExDubai]

As a reds supporter I'd like to quote our manager "We have to change from doubters to believers" I'd love to see CM walking over the Creek....

[FLEX/MCT]

The source for this email is highly reliable. I have also heard similar from another source who had a long and productive chat with CM and was impressed by him. My only doubt concerns wether CM will be allowed free reign to smash the vested interests and mini-empires that pervade this place. He will certainly have a mountain to climb.

[TooLow]

Why do rational and supposedly educated people believe this tosh??

Is it eternal optimism/glass half-full mentality? Maybe the heat has cooked their brains...

[ClassCbird]

1.WHY is CM working for the Ruler of Dubai (Mohammed) and not the Chairman of the Airline (Ahmed) ?????

2. WHY would CM give his game plan away to ANY member of staff, let alone mere mortals such as front line operational staff???

3. WHY would CM only invite locals and not a broader spectrum of nationalities???

4. WHY would CM turn up for a meeting in jeans and T-shirt???

5. WHY would CM's game plan be to make your lives better? 'Change Management' = More profit less cost. Not CHANGE back to what some had 20 years ago!

6. WHY am I even entertaining this thread????

[Twiglet1]

Its called Transformation. There is a similar project going on at Saudia.
I guess it will look at all area's. The Pilots should win because you can't work much harder than currently. Good luck to the bloke.

[DCS99]

The 4th floor office is correct.
The rest I don't believe.

[notapilot15]

@ClassCbird

#1 Plausible deniability. Chairman always can say it is Ruler's decision.
#2 Based on past interviews CM always goes first to shop floor.
#3 End of the day it is their airline, it is their responsibility to save it.
#4 To piss off suits
#5 20 years back in the sense keep it a good place to work, not back to two PIA used planes.
#6 You should answer that

[Kapitanleutnant]

He's supposedly been there 6 months???

Where's the good... the "same airline it was 20 years ago"? Granted it can take a while to turn a rudderless ship but c'mon... really??

It shouldn't take him (if this is all true which I have my doubts) that long to simply turn the tide of resignations, should it?

Good grief....

[Nikita81]

Everything supposedly said in this "email" is a logical thing to do and the only solution for Emirates to get out of the ****.

Even if the email is fake, it's a damn good analysis of overall situation. My instinct tells me it's real. There is a reason why nobody paid me to shut down my blog (and it costed only 700 euros, which is my End of Service money) or why nobody hacked it so far.

If Dubai rulers want to continue to make money from EK, they have to change towards employees' satisfaction and they know it.

I would actually like them to succeed.

[Wizofoz]

There is a reason why nobody paid me to shut down my blog (and it costed only 700 euros, which is my End of Service money) or why nobody hacked it or silenced me so far.


Yes, there's a reason- just not the one your inflated ego assumes:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[glofish]

The Sheikh wants EK back to how it was 20 years ago

... and the Donald wants to make America great again. :ouch:

[Capt. Flamingo]

Sorry guys email not real, I got the following message from an EK B777 Capt (so it MUST be true).

Bro,

Had a very interesting thing happening to me earlier today at HQ. While being jetlagged out of my soul trying to pack for my very early morning departure I realised that I didn't have any uniform at home! No big deal, it was around 11am so no traffic to go and get it from HQ, hoping that it was going to be ready. So I get there in flip flops and shorts since it was a quick in and out (mmm nice burgers) operation, but then looking at my watch saw that it was a weekday and I was there during business hours mmm interesting. Remembering that email, whatsapp msg, txt (whatever you want to call it) about good ol' CM I decided to go up to the 4th floor and drop him a visit.

Catched the lift from the G floor, pressed 4 and doors closed. Lift stops on the 2nd floor and surprise surprise, DCPB1 pops in! He looked at me with such despise due to my attire and also he saw the blue lanyard around my neck, he was trying so hard to see my name, I panicked and exited the lift by the nick of time (I had forgoten what my epin is so wasn't going to be able to print my warning letter from the emachine).

There went my plan to go see CM, to compose myself I went to the boy's room. While washing my hands, this gentleman in jeans and t-shirt came in and he looked very familiar for some reason. Kept doing my thing and the gentleman's phone rang, he picks up with a German accent "good morning your Highness", HA! I know who he is now. Approached him and asked if it was him, he said yes this is me how can I help you? I started asking him and he stopped me to say "you want to know about that email don't you?", wow this guy is good. He told me the email is not true, he has read it tho and he thinks is funny because it's very close to what his plans are. Of course he didn't want to go too deep into it but he hinted that he will try to achieve good things for everyone, specially the work force, he even mentioned something about commuting. This is first hand information my friend.

There I was driving home happy about my little chat with CM and positive about things to come when I realised I had forgotten to pick up the bloody uniform!!!




Don't shoot the messenger.

[Popgun]

...and then I woke up...very angry to realise I was only having a dream.

BWAAHAA!

[Nikita81]

Yes, there's a reason- just not the one your inflated ego assumes

Provocation is my specialization. :) I figured long ago how to attract the attention of inflated egos here - just play your game. Always have someone to oppose me which allows me to explain my arguments better. Even now, when I told you this, I will still manage to provoke you again because you just can't help it. :) Oh, one more thing - everyone has ego, inflated or not, it doesn't matter. What matters is the purpose you are using it for.

Back to the topic: I do need to explain myself better - maybe the email is fake, but my instinct definitely tells me there is something in it. If you want to spread the idea in some organization you have to talk about it to common workers, low grades. Same goes if you want to spread a rebellion or hope, motivation. It shouldn't be strange that someone found out about CM's plans. The one who will really bring the change will behave exactly like described in the e-mail and rumours. It can be CM or someone really good in organizational psychology. Finally, if this is just a hoax, it may be the last stage of EK's decay...

[donpizmeov]

One of the problems with social media being everywhere, is that these stories spread quickly. In yesteryear, they had the same. Stories of some watery tart handing out swords to determine the countries leader and the like. But now, everyday you get swarmed with stories about a professor with a glass of sand, or some woman meeting an old man who is in a hurry to meet his wife with dementia.
Here in the asylum, we have stories of a fashion challenged, toilet lurking kraut, who will save the day. If it makes you feel better, Fantastic. But if the idea that he answers the phone mid Crap, and freely spills his guts post Crap doesn't make you go hmmmm, then you need to revisit that CRM thing about suspicion.
Just as fat mid aged cat owning single ladies love to read about never dieing true love. EK pilots love to read of the mashiah that will ride in on a white steed to their rescue.

[notapilot15]

@don

EK turned itself into one of the world's leading PR companies and flight ops become non-core business. So how can you say its wrong for its pilots to read and believe stories.

Of course planted bad news about competitors are juicy and about own self are vehemently discounted.

Chickens do come home to roost.

[joe.bloggs]

notapilot15

I hope you're not a pilot. With an attitude like that you would'nt last one minute in a cockpit.

Quote from two threads

"Tow Indians on dingy boats out of its territorial waters and place a courtesy call to Indian Embassy and let their Navy rescue them.

Plan all along was to blame sub-continent folks if things go south. Most accept that because they are part of the problem."

Take a good look at yourself. Looks pretty bad right now. But there's always hope.

[notapilot15]

@joe

I double checked and my conscious is very clear. Rather than asking me, why not ask people who are root cause of the problem.
Is it OK to treat expat pilots badly?
Is it OK to treat 20 year old females thousands of miles away from families badly?
Who sanctioned this kind of behavior?
Even if some one sanctioned, where is the minimum human decency?

[joe.bloggs]

notapilot15, what you say above is valid, but it's not what was drawn to attention in my post.

I'm sure you're smart enough to figure that out and reflect on it. Good luck.

[donpizmeov]

Cabin crew being offered up to 4 months unpaid leave starting Nov. Lucky bugg@s

[JAYTO]

you could go 4 months without a salary Don?

Were you an early investor in a ponzi scheme?


;)


J

[ExDubai]

Cabin crew being offered up to 4 months unpaid leave starting Nov. Lucky bugg@s
Wow, that's generous :}

[donpizmeov]

Jayto,

Am thinking of putting the overnight allowance on red. Should see me through the first 10min or so.

[The Guru]

Pilots being downgraded, and cabin crew with extended unpaid leave...

If both rumors are true then there must be something going on. The minions don't know about it, haven't been told about it, and won't see it coming!! :suspect::suspect::suspect:

[Dubaian]

Not that it will apply to EK but I understand that under the UAE Labour Law in general it is illegal for the employer to offer unpaid leave. The employee however may request it for personal reasons and it may or may not be granted.

[glofish]

When will you start to understand that UAE labor law does not apply for EK employees!:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

We are a semi-government entity, meaning they can apply any kind of law to their liking.

[777boyindubai]

Time and time and time again. UAE Labour Law does not apply to EK.

[buggerall]

Time and time and time again. UAE Labour Law does not apply to EK.

As such can we unionize?:ugh:

[Talparc]

lets start a union!

[Icarus2001]

is a logical thing to do and the only solution for Emirates to get out of the ****.

This is more important than the money
EK has dug itself a hole in the way it has gone about its business the last 10 years or so

Emirates Group Announces Record Profits (http://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-group-announces-record-profits)

So if Emirates claim a US$1.9 billion profit, what is the "****" they need to get out of, or what hole are they dug into?

Seems a disconnect between disgruntled staff and a massively profitable business?

[momo95]

lets start a union!

People in the UAE have been traced and done for "inciting public disorder" online many times ... although a joke ...

[Talparc]

thanks momo95

[QCM]

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[notapilot15]

So if Emirates claim a US$1.9 billion profit, what is the "****" they need to get out of, or what hole are they dug into?

Seems a disconnect between disgruntled staff and a massively profitable business?

Key word is claim.

Most of it is from low oil prices. While low oil prices help Emirates(airline) it hurts Emirates(empire).

High attrition of core talent, over capacity, low yields on premium cabins, taking away passenger perks, nickle and dime passenger amenities... none of these are signs of well run massively profitable airline.

You cannot have a successful airline by abusing employees, dumping capacity on competitors, filling premium cabins with op-ups forever.

Revenue, human talent, capacity, network and yield managements are real skills. PR firms cannot help with those skills, all they can do is :D:D:D:D:D

[Panther 88]

Time and time and time again. UAE Labour Law does not apply to EK.
Only when it suites them, do the laws apply. Seriously, GulfAir 2.0.

[luvly jubbly]

Still nobody been up to 4th for a chat?

[P7xkk]

Isn't it a spooky coincidence that the VP of group finincial reporting resigned when the figures were published? just saying.....

[lospilotos]

Isn't it a spooky coincidence that the VP of group finincial reporting resigned when the figures were published? just saying.....

Resignation? Results? Published? Did I miss something?

Edit: Ahhh, thought you were talking of 2016-17 H1 results...

[Jack D]

You're kidding ?

[P7xkk]

Jack, nope, he upped sticks and left. His better half claimed that he was overworked, and so they returned to Europe, leaving behind their matching number plates.....