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go46ball
2nd Sep 2016, 04:00
They must like the quality coming out of here!
Dubai, Sep 9th.
Two daily information Sessions will be held on September 9th, 2016
Park Hyatt Dubai
Dubai Creek Club Street (Golf & Yacht Club, near DXB Intl airport) ph: +971 4 602 1234
1st session: 10:00a ~ 12:00p, 2nd session: 15:00p ~ 17:30p
Kamelchaser
2nd Sep 2016, 04:39
Given that I've heard lots of talk of between 40-60 Captains already leaving or in the process of leaving EK to KAL, this doesn't come as a surprise.
Why would you not target an airline where the highly experienced, type rated, well trained Captains are being worked to death...give them a reasonable roster, a home basing, and a reasonable salary, and it's easy pickings.
Meanwhile, EK is busy replacing its most experienced crew with first officers and captains whose experience is limited to say the least. The average experience level in both seats in the EK cockpit has plunged in the last year or so.
only 1 day? come on...They should know most EK slaves have max. 8 to 9 days off a month.
Kal is very high on a lot of 777 skippers joblist but getting time off to do roadshows or an interview is a major issue. Please take note.
single chime
2nd Sep 2016, 07:09
They also go to Abu Dhabi:
Abu Dhabi, Sep 7th and 8th.
Two daily information Sessions will be held on September 7th and 8th, 2016
Al Raha Beach Hotel
Channel St., Dubai Rd, (near Al Raha Mall) - Abu Dhabi ph: +971 2 508 0555
1st session: 10:00a ~ 12:00p, 2nd session: 15:00p ~ 17:30p
The Turtle
2nd Sep 2016, 10:00
which agency is this? KAL does not recruit directly
fatbus
2nd Sep 2016, 11:04
A few years ago the rumours were @ 140 EK pilots interviewing , but that was only a rumour .
go46ball
2nd Sep 2016, 12:53
Agency is TAS Total Aviation Services.
fatbus
2nd Sep 2016, 14:35
CCL and Rishworth
nolimitholdem
3rd Sep 2016, 09:00
KAL recruits through about seven different agencies such as Rishworth and CCL, but TAS (Total Aviation Services) is actually owned by KAL. The contract is the same terms whomever you go through anyway. Not always the case with all contract jobs, sometimes different agencies have slightly different packages, sometimes quite different. But that's what I've been told by one of the TAS recruiting chiefs, I haven't bothered to ty and procure all the different contracts to check.
Probably the best commuting job out there. Not the highest-paying, but the best-organized and most stable.
only 1 day? come on...They should know most EK slaves have max. 8 to 9 days off a month. Kal is very high on a lot of 777 skippers joblist but getting time off to do roadshows or an interview is a major issue. Please take note.
If you think it's difficult to get one day off for a roadshow, try getting 5-7 in a row for the selection. It's a problem.
motley flight crue
3rd Sep 2016, 10:08
The should rent the 777 sim here at DSO for assessments. Go to Seoul for medical. I'm stuck for time to go through it all.
bianchi
6th Sep 2016, 16:29
Recently completed the 4 day screening process in Seoul with KAL , failed my medicals to every bodies surprise including myself. ( btw I was nr 4 of 4 that I know that did the screening with Korean that failed there astronaut medical check ). I have found the actual screening process to be very straight forward and pleasant ................. ( apart from there ridiculous medical ). Good luck to all attending , I think its a nice set-up to work for.
Without disclosing personal info, can you provide any examples of the reasons for the medical failures? I.e. BMI, vision or underlying physiological issues. What was the age range of the 4 pilots?
Thanks.
ThunderLizard
8th Sep 2016, 08:43
If you really want to go to Korea, China, etc you should pay to do medical prep the same way you pay for sim prep. Get an EKG and blood draw. If something is out of limits, do some googling -maybe a change to your diet or exercise routine could bring it back in line. Also hit an eye doc and ENT to practice the vision and balance tests Asian airline medicals contain -you can practice those beforehand, just like sim prep.
The Turtle
9th Sep 2016, 14:10
I attended the roadshow today, not surprised the room was full (and not full of young ones, either....mostly senior Captains)
Impressive example rosters, reverse basing? wow. And impressive marketing
Shocking what EK has done to our schedules.....I shake my head in how EK has lost it.
I just wish Korean would increase the package a wee bit
I'm left with the notion that to get my life back, I must give up quite a few schekels
You only end up giving those schekels back one way or the other. Go for it. Be happy and dont look back. Cant wait for my turn.
J
Turtle remember one thing...you can't spend those extra shekels when you are dead.
ThunderLizard
10th Sep 2016, 05:29
9+2=11 consecutive off + travel days every month.
Biz class firm ticket to/from every month.
That seems the big draw for KAL. Why don't the Gulf airlines just offer similar and plug the drain? Seems easier than constantly having to recruit and train new guys.
Cantbebothered
10th Sep 2016, 07:34
Saw quite a few very senior captains post on their Facebook pictures of themselves at the KAL interviews. Very surprised at some though as they used to be EK loyalists.
fatbus
10th Sep 2016, 11:15
No need to hide anything and it's time to move on.
Good question as to why EK not do the same and stop the brain drain .
Payscale
10th Sep 2016, 12:41
Couldn't go. How does it look financially and tax wise?
flyac
10th Sep 2016, 13:30
As far as i'm concerned 12800$ with 700-1000$ per diems on 777 and 380 fleet.
They pay Korean taxes but if your home country doesn't have a double tax agreement you probably have to pay taxes there as well.
So far i'm impressed by the rosters i saw and i'm right before applying.
Hope that helps!
fatbus
10th Sep 2016, 14:31
Korean tax is @ 25%, they pay, you pay the rest based on your own country
flyac
10th Sep 2016, 14:49
Not from what i heard. If your country has a double tax agreement you maybe don't have to pay taxes at all.
Jack D
10th Sep 2016, 15:46
Should your country of employment have a dual tax agreement with your country of residence there will be no double taxation ; the answers are out there , just inform yourselves by contacting your local tax authorities .
KAL is a very good commuting job , and as for not having time off to attend selection , just take the time off ! Using any means possible , in the end a warning letter is largely meaningless , it's your life !
formerlywazza
11th Sep 2016, 11:08
The way I read it, you don't pay the same tax twice. But if, for example, the higher rate tax is 40% in the UK and you are UK resident, you pay the full UK tax bill, minus the tax element that was paid in Korea - you still have a tax bill in the UK, but are just given credit for the element already paid in Korea.
Happy to be proven wrong!
CaptainProp
11th Sep 2016, 13:23
Formerlywazza, that's exactly how it works in the two EU countries I've lived in.
CP
Rather Be Skiing
11th Sep 2016, 13:43
There is usually a Tax Treaty between countries that specifies how taxation is handled. Details can vary between your home country and other countries for the same circumstance.
For example, in Canada it used to be that, for pilots specifically, if tax was paid in one jurisdiction none was owed in the other. That has since changed and tax is paid in Canada less the credit for tax paid in Korea.
It is different with China.
It is best to have a tax expert confirm the details for you I would say.