Flyadeal Saudi Arabia

[mutt]

Main Page English ? Flyadeal (http://www.flyadeal.com/main-page/)

Apparently they had over 40,000 applicants for jobs in the first day following the announcement, I wonder how many were pilots.

Although it will be part of Saudia, i doubt that the terms, conditions, and problems will be the same as Saudia, so I think that they deserve their own thread.

[ironbutt57]

bear in mind Gulf Traveller was NOT a "low cost" airline by any definition...it was full service all economy

[mutt]

20 330 Regional ordered by Saudia.
I thought that they were a domestic airline which would have a lower operating cost and allow the Government to cut the present subsidies.

They announced the airline and revealed the Airbus A320 NEO as the chosen aircraft.

[mutt]

Thanks......

[polax52]

Will the foreign A320/A330 Pilots be forced over to the new "Low cost"?


It's almost a no-brainer, isn't it?

[Chocks Away]

Doubtful, as they're required to crew the mainline fleets with 24 new airframes arriving by the end of year.

[argentina21]

Any updates on the progress of Flyadeal?

[Flyboy_SG]

Nothing et all !

[airborneksa]

Heard they might change to Boeing equipment.

[Twiglet1]

Any news on fleet yet?

[argentina21]

What's happening with flyadeal?

[argentina21]

I see that flyadeal has now hired their CEO.

[Twiglet1]

Saudi Arabian LCC flyadeal to lease six A320s - ch-aviation.com (http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/52441-saudi-arabian-lcc-flyadeal-to-lease-six-a320s)

[hammock]

Hi everyone,

Any updates on Flyadeal? Are they hiring pilot now?

[argentina21]

Hi everyone,

Any updates on Flyadeal? Are they hiring pilot now?

They have an ad for captains on LinkedIn

[Flyeast]

Any new or update information about flyadeal pilots recruitments?
Heard first group already in Jed.

[zizok2]

hello guys

Any news or feedback about flyadeal first officers interview, test, sim..?

thanks

[Flyboy_SG]

They are scheduled to start operations on 23rd sep. First aircraft has arrived Jed and ready on the ramp. And second one is on the way. Looks like a good start.

[Majed.m.h]

the third aircraft in it's way to JEDDAH. They are offering 22/11 roster

[exLaker]

Just few questions about Flyadeal;
- Do you fly on a validation as an expat or you get a Saudi license?
- How long is your training last? Are you paid only basic while in training or full pay?
- What kind of standard accommodation is provided? what the average family Apartments cost please?

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Ex..

[polax52]

Just few questions about Flyadeal;
- Do you fly on a validation as an expat or you get a Saudi license?
- How long is your training last? Are you paid only basic while in training or full pay?
- What kind of standard accommodation is provided? what the average family Apartments cost please?

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Ex..

1. You would obtain a Saudi License.
2. Training, Probably, 6 months.
3. You'll be paid basic salary because the remainder of your salary is productivity pay which of course you'll get per block hour flown.
4. Accommodation will probably be hotel initially. I presume at some point in the future they will find a compound.

[exLaker]

Thanks Polax52 for your feedback..Are you still with SV on the 777?

[Flyboy_SG]

@Mutt, not to pilots but to FAD.



No Polax, they'll pay for 80hrs (including productivity) right from the start. And that's all even when you fly on the line, up to 80. Nothing more nothing less. They should be getting a compound in few months, probably beginning of next yr.

[SkyRider2000]

Hey there.any contacts for the applications? For the pilots of course.
I fly A320 and heard that today getting licence there is easy if you have enough hours...
Thanks

[mutt]

The new package offered to SVA crews to go on loan is pretty impressive.

[Flyboy_SG]

Yep it is. No one would go otherwise.

[captcak]

other skippers informed just a British gig. Only for native speakers!

[mutt]

other skippers informed just a British gig. Only for native speakers! Native English or Native Arabic speakers?

[metro301]

Lets think about that... 1) An only native english speaker job in the time of 2030. Not likely...

2) Only a native arabic job in a time of captain shortage... Again, not likely...

The rumour out there is only Arab Cabin crew. I doubt even that is true.

[Majed.m.h]

you will be paid for 80h block whether you fly 80 or not, the training takes approximately 15 days which include ( 5 days basic indoc, 3 days sim , 2 days line training + 1 day line check ) this what they have offered for us. I think this is a special program since we hold GACA A320 Rating

[jimmyg]

Is the salary the same if you have GACA 320 licence?

[Majed.m.h]

Is the salary the same if you have GACA 320 licence?

Yes it’s the same

[mutt]

There is a special deal for SVA crews to transfer to FAD for 6-12 months, their offered deal is good, especially if they are instructors. But so far I haven't seen this deal offered to direct hires.

[Sss23]

How about guys who are not GACA licensed? How long did it take for them to clear?

Would appreciate any info on the interview and sim check, heard abt it being NO FD and NO A/THRST sim check.

[Flyboy_SG]

Why would they offer it to direct hires when they have enough applications. recruitment sessions are full for the next 6 months.

[EPR turbo]

Hi,
Did anybody hear some insider news from FAD in JED and their real set-up now?
Reg. training period, foreign vs. GACA licenses, accommodation, scheduling, commuting, crew-pairings, C/C, crew atmosphere etc?
Would appreciate some news from people knowing the FAD situation, not only wannabes....!
Many thanks

[volare_737]

Hi all. Just trying to find out new info on above as the info on here is a bit outdated.
They are coming to Asia for interviews.
What is the working environment, rosters, living conditions like. Also how does the commuting work out ?
Any info would be great ?
Thanks

[italian stallion]

anybody with information about this gig please, someone that is actually flying there that can give us honest info.
Thanks

[polax52]

anybody with information about this gig please, someone that is actually flying there that can give us honest info.
Thanks

I am not in Flyadeal but I am in Saudi Arabia. I'll tell you what I understand:
- They are recruiting currently for the A320, presumably this will become recruitment for the B737 at some point
- They pay sar 50,000 to Captains
- They pay accommodation
- Block of 10 days off each month(how you get home, I don't know)

[Jobber Jobber]

The BAD:
no crew food including no tea/coffee onboard
80-90 hours per rotation of 20/22 days on
transport allowance insufficient for car rental costs or taxi
continuous minor defects on almost every aircraft due reactive instead of preemptive low cost maintenance
fairly low roster stability for FO and terrible roster stability for CP (so far)
long training period circa 3 months
compounds provided but out of 2, 1 is poor quality and the other 30 mins from Jeddah center
most duties 4 sectors around 9-11 hours long
A number of duties through the night finishing as late as 7am
operating to conflict zones in Abha and Jizan with no extra allowance
FAA rules and not EASA so minimum rest is 10 hours and max duty length is 13 hours for 4 sectors...too long!
Slow inefficient operation with no GPU, late marshaller, late buses, late tug, late everything....but definitely improving
no first officer taxiing, or PF to special airports Medina and Abha.
no low vis certification and until now no RNAV certification either
many different contracts so cannot advise on latest conditions

The GOOD
salary paid on time every month
A320 on order
contracted pattern of days on/off well respected
ticketing allowance and staff discount on a number of airlines.
crew planning are quite flexible with leave request or moving days around on unpublished rosters
generally speaking, the cabin and cockpit crew are a great bunch. Some cabin crew very inexperienced though
the promise of upgrade for FO although no seniority program and no upgrades performed so far

For first officers, this type of flying operation will not make you the best. You will hardly ever experience strong crosswinds, heavy rain, runway contamination or icing conditions, except the occasional CB in summer which is too easily avoided. And the pace of operations leads to sloppy habits due to flying the same routes every day. Almost zero “green operating practices” are performed. As the airline expands into newer operating environments outside domestic SA, this will lead a lot of inexperience amount crew. In my opinion, this isn’t the best environment to begin a flying career in. As for CP, your days off are respected and salary paid on time - what more can you ask for. Work like a dog for 22 days then enjoy the 121 days at home +/- annual leave if in contract!

[polax52]

I would also suggest that Saudi Arabia is not a good solution as an expat First Officer. Flyadeal is part of the Saudi Airlines group. It's a government airline. The Government has a very strong Saudiisation agenda. They absolutely will not promote non-Saudi's if Saudi's are available for the same promotion. Saudia made a lot of promises to expat First Officer's during screening regarding upgrades during recruitment 3-7 years ago. They have absolutely reneged on those promises. It is most likely that Flyadeal will do the same.

[Romasik]

There is another issue regarding expats in Saudi Arabia. As for now the foreign pilot’s GACA licence limit is 2020 for first officers and 2023 for captains. If there is no policy change from the the very top of the government it will be enforced this way.

[argentina21]

There is another issue regarding expats in Saudi Arabia. As for now the foreign pilot’s GACA licence limit is 2020 for first officers and 2023 for captains. If there is no policy change from the the very top of the government it will be enforced this way.

Where has this been communicated?

[Flyer4040]

What’s the process of licence conversion to Saudi licence?
or do they convert it to FAA licence ?

[Fawaz]

Appreciate any feedback for those who did the skype interview !?

[Just_landed]

Hi all, need a quick help.

As I understand, this gig is a commuting contract...am i right? Is it like 20 or 22 days work and stay in Jeddah, but then OFF days, you HAVE TO exit Jeddah?
Also, could somebody throw some light on overall salary breakdown as latest as possible. I read 50k SAR up above but that I assume is probably just base pay and flight pay.

Thanks in Advance.

[Jathissh]

Hi guys, anyone done the sim check for flyadeal FO position? Any feedback would be highly appreciated. Thanks

[mutt]

Will they be in operation next month?

[Mehdi85]

Hello did you do the skype interview with flyadeal?

[avishek002]

Dear Mates
Have an online interview for Flyadeal, invited by Ray Wann.
If anybody can give some info, will be much appreciated.
regards

[Alalf001]

Me too, if you wish text me

[kungfu panda]

Me too, if you wish text me at 00 39 335 6013892 Whatapp
Are you sure you want to leave your personal phone number on a public forum. It'll be abused.

[SW1]

jathishh. sent you a pm regarding the online interview.
I am yet to do the interview so am asking for info
thanks

[Lucifer786]

Any info with regards to the Skype interview is welcome. Thanks

[mutt]

Considering your post on the Saudia thread, why on earth would you want to work in Saudi Arabia?

[Python27]

Considering your post on the Saudia thread, why on earth would you want to work in Saudi Arabia?

Disbelief on what's written here/excess of stubbornness

or

Bad passport

or

​​​​​Born in middle east, loves the middle east, belongs to the me.

27 out, RTB.

[Eagleazzu]

.this is the post that LUCIFER876 wrote in the Saudia forum

Seems like you were in Jeddah pre dinosaur era lucille.
No offense meant, but after centuries of greedily living off of the hard earned money of poor( sometimes very poor )pilgrims coming to Mecca for Haj and, decades of making easy oil money from the taxpayers of the world, all of this must come to an end.
It’s time the hunter became the hunted and the tables were turned.
The free oil tap has now been cut off, the fake tourism in the name of religion into Mecca has been shut down and one of their major free consumers of oil ie Saudia Airlines has been brought to its knees.
If this doesn’t teach the SAUDI Arab a lesson in humanity and its power, then I’m afraid he will only learn when he has to eat sand for breakfast followed by a stiff drink of the now useless crude oil and then a visit to an empty mosque in Mecca.
Combined with stratospheric egos, corruption in their DNA and an unmatched greed for money, this nation settling into the nameless shifting sands vey soon as just another unmarked giant dune is simply inevitable.
Nature strikes back and it’s time to pay !
The price may be too heavy for some I fear.
I however even now pray that they learn to be humane before the hand of allah strikes them their final blow.
Getting bad curses and worse duas from 3-400 expat pilots losing their jobs at a time like this isn’t going to help their cause much I’m afraid.

Es hora de sentir el dolor.



After talking sh..t about Saudis and Saudia you want to work for flyadeal ? for the same, Saudis that you wish , quote , I however even now pray that they learn to be humane before the hand of allah strikes them their final blow
I suggest you see a good doctor , possibly a psychologist ,some mental issues here ...