Surviving Harrier airframes

[Lindsay2012]

Does anyone know how many surviving Harrier airframes there are in the UK , either as gate guardians , future gate guardians , training airframes , in the hands of museums or about go for scrap or fire practice ?
Are there any already in private hands ?

[AGS Man]

There are around 120 Harrier and Sea Harriers dotted around UK plus quite a few overseas. Some are in private hands. A rough break down is
7 x P1127
1 x Kestrel
1 x T2
43 x GR3
8 x T4
2 x GR5
4 x GR7
4 x T8
5 x GR9
3 x T10
1 x T52
41 x SHah
Source, www.demobbed.org.uk (http://www.demobbed.org.uk)

[peppermint_jam]

There's a thread covering this over on keypublishing mate.


Clicky linky thingy (http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?51123-Harriers-in-museums)

[scarecrow450]

Or theres this site

Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft (http://www.demobbed.org.uk/aircraft.php?type=1824)

[Lyneham Lad]

Does anyone know how many surviving Harrier airframes there are in the UK , either as gate guardians , future gate guardians , training airframes , in the hands of museums or about go for scrap or fire practice ?
Are there any already in private hands ?

Not from Taiwan are you, by any chance? ;)

[Royalistflyer]

No - he's really Navy and has been detailed to quietly find something to replace the ever-receding F-35. A bit like a Navy friend of mine years ago who was detailed to quietly go around trying to find AS Mambas because they were running out of spares.

[Planet Basher]

The F35 was so named as that is the year it is hoped to be fully functional.

[Exnomad]

They may be a lot of Harriers about, but does anyone know if it would be even possible to get one that has been in a museum for years to fly again

[CAEBr]

'They may be a lot of Harriers about, but does anyone know if it would be even possible to get one that has been in a museum for years to fly again'

In terms of fitting the necessary kit and switching it all on - yes :ok:

Doing that with an appropriately signed paperwork trail - no :(

[NutLoose]

There is also a live GR3 in the UK in private hands..

here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKqbGglRxE8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvsfyuW9Rjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAk7GQzqxag

[dagenham]

The caa are freaking out about hunters...can't even imagine the response to the harrier in private hands. Especially withe elderly gentlemen who could fly them putting their hips as the Stana takes them into the cockpit.

The faa only agreed to art nails as he is an ex test God with serious hours and even a number of hours dead stick time!

[NutLoose]

As it does not fly it does not come under the CAA remit so they are not interested, the same was said when the Victor got airborne.

[dagenham]

Nut loose apologies I was referring to flying not use as leaf / grass / ice / snow blower

[NutLoose]

He is however importing a Tbird and training the next generation of Civilian Pilots ( Ex Military ) to fly the Harriers.

Art Nalls to import an airworthy Harrier T8 jump jet trainer to the USA (http://www.warbirdsnews.com/airshow-news/ex-raf-harrier-t-10-trainer-fly-usa.html)

[Above The Clouds]

NutLoose
He is however importing a Tbird and training the next generation of Civilian Pilots ( Ex Military ) to fly the Harriers.

Art Nalls to import an airworthy Harrier T8 jump jet trainer to the USA

It just puts the UK regularity authorities to shame, but very well done Nalls for looking after historic aviation.

CAA = Campaign Against Aviation :ugh:

[KyleG]

There are a fair number of Sea Harriers at RNAS Culdrose, and a few are maintained in running condition for ground taxis. Theoretically, should the power limiter be removed, they could be made airworthy.

[sunnybunny]

Don't know if you still can but I took an tour of Culdrose (go to the visitors centre/ view area with ID) which consisted of being taken round on a bus.

The highlight was the deck handling school where there are a number of Harriers. We were allowed to get off the bus and get very close to the beasts, but not go in the hangar.

The other highlight was the Hawk maintenance hangar which we were allowed to walk round and have a look in a cockpit.

[BEagle]

The RN has rather a good history of keeping retired aeroplanes away from the prying eyes of officialdom...

Back in the early 1960s, wasn't there an Avenger or a Martlet / Wildcat somewhere up in Scotland that the stone frigate's captain kept safely hidden away?

[Martin the Martian]

sunnybunny: Since the FAA Museum closed down the viewing enclosure shop :mad: the tours no longer run. However, proper enthusiasts tours of Culdrose are run by a number of aviation groups, and these allow very good access with photography permitted in most areas.

And yes, the Hellcat on display in the FAAM at Yeovilton was used as the Captain's personal aircraft at Lossiemouth up until the late 1950s at least.

[Martin the Martian]

Oh crap.

How do I resize images?

[Courtney Mil]

Martin,

Even though HTML et al can do it very easily, this website can't. Best bet is to upload your image to Photobucket or whatever as a resized image or do it there and then post the link to it here.

But do get rid of it as it is, please.

[JW411]

Well, the way I do it is as follows:

Right click original image
Open With
Paint
Resize

If your image is more than 800 x 600, reduce it until it meets those figures.

Then post the resized image just as you did the oversized ones.

Works for me.

[Courtney Mil]

Well done, JW, probably a better description than my post.

After that, you need to put it somewhere you can link to,mid you hadn't already. You can't upload pictures to PPRuNe.

[treadigraph]

You can't upload pictures to PPRuNe.

You can now; under "User CP" there is a link "pictures and albums" where you can add up to 60 images at 600x600 dpi...

http://www.pprune.org/members/45458-treadigraph-albums-treadders-picture195t-picture1.jpg

[Wander00]

That's a Harrier!?

[treadigraph]

Well, the landings can be fairly short :ok: When they are flying of course... :{

[Courtney Mil]

Treadigraph, thank you. I'll look into that.

[Steve Bond]

BEagle, that was Hellcat KE209 at Lossiemouth.

[BEagle]

Thanks for the gen., steve!

Time I paid another visit to the FAA museum down zum'zett, particularly since FNHT members are entitled to reduced entry fees.

[sandiego89]

Pssstt, hey buddy wanna buy a few harriers? trust me these were babbied, one owner, low miles, some almost brand new, kept bagged in a super dry climate....:E

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=32.161669~-110.830257&lvl=20&sty=h&form=LMLTCC

These are the ex uk GR7/9's in store in Arizona. At the fire sale price think the US was smart to grab them for spares/insurance if the F-35B did not pan out....

[Martin the Martian]

Thanks chaps. For now it's just easier to remove the images.

As the risk of self-publicising, here's a link to my flickr albums:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25538536@N02/albums

Lots of Culdrose tour images there.