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Flying Bean
18th Jun 2002, 17:42
What sort of aircraft would I be looking for in the Southern African Region to do freight ops in the 8 - 12 m/t range (Maybe up to 16m/t). Airfields would be good tar with plenty of length available for jet ops.
Dont really want to look at the Russian options as these seem to be in bad favour in the region.
Another alternative would be to halve the payload and double the flights i.e. 4-6 m/t.
Where does the Let410 fit into all of this?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

flying masai
18th Jun 2002, 18:46
I have seen LET 410 in operation in east africa and this cheap plane does the work, especialy the one with PT6 engines.
I am not sure about the pay loads.

Good luck.

Paddle Steamer
18th Jun 2002, 20:29
The AN72/74 is a really good aircraft.Saw them on the Paris dakar rally and they never missed a beat.Good rough field performance and very robust and fairly quick with the ramp and door to make loading that much easier.
Is this a new venture???
ANgola maybe?

C Montgomery Burns
18th Jun 2002, 23:10
Let 410 payload is only around 2 tonnes.

Flying Bean
19th Jun 2002, 06:31
Thanks for that info, but what are the jet options?
We could look at the Russian options provided it was operated by a reputable RSA company.
This is a new route, not a new venture, initially only a once a week flight.Can't give any more details.
Would suit an existing company with spare capacity so if someone wants to throw some names at me we would look at a wet/dry lease.

C Montgomery Burns
19th Jun 2002, 09:57
Try a B727-100 on wet lease from Safair.

freightboss
19th Jun 2002, 10:12
New options:

ATR42/72 or Casa235/295 have payloads that range from 4.5t on ATR42/Casa235 to 7.2t for ATR72/Casa295. Smaller a/c such as the Brasilia (EMB120) will lift about 2.5t.

Negative aspect: as these tend to be newer aircraft, they are expensive to obtain, but then - they are more efficient.

Old options:

Check out EAT in Brussels (DHL) as they are in the process of getting rid of their Convair 580 (6.5-7t payload) and 727.100/200 (14-21t max payload). They also operate some 737.300Fs with apayload in the region of 14t.

What about a DC8? Older models such as the -53 have about 23t payload with the later -63/73 models having a max payload of 35-43t.

These aircraft are relativelyinexpensive to obtain, but cost more to operate. All a question of 6 of one, half a dozen of the other...

All depends on the route structure/sector lengths and type of cargo which is to be flown (is it palletised, containerised or loose, etc).

Hope this helps...

blowawayjet
20th Jun 2002, 00:45
freightboss:

as for dc-8 50 and 60 series, they carry around 40tons of payload......on paper, can do much more then that... :D :D


The cheapest diezel 8, will be the -55, there are 2 for sale in SHJ, both ex LWA......perfect for sh*tty jobs......and a real work horse...perfect for african ops.

C Montgomery Burns
20th Jun 2002, 06:40
Forget the ex LWA aircraft (they now belong to Air Cargo Plus) - rather, check out African International Airways - they have a couple of -54s on the 3D reg and a -62 on ZS. Very professional outfit to deal with.

4144r
20th Jun 2002, 14:36
Flying bean,
Cargo plane for new ops!!!!
I hope it will be more serious than the previous!!!
No offence.
:D
I'd rather flying than speaking