Aer Lingus Cadetship 2016

[PPRuNeUser0207]

The 2016 Aer Lingus Cadet Pilot Training Programme is now open. http://careers.aerlingus.com/careers-in-the-air/cadet-pilots/

[Bloated Stomach]

Don't bother applying if you hold a fATPL as you'll get an immediate email stating that you're ineligible. FTE Jerez should be very clear about qualifications and experience :ugh:

[Alew Crew]

Yes, i received an email stating i'm ineligible (I'm CPL IR ME ATPL FROZEN).

Anyway good luck for the others !

[GeorgEGNT]

Good luck to all.

[Citationcj2]

Also if you're not an Irish Citizen, don't bother applying. Alltough they take applications worldwide just to appear equal, but you won't get it. Just looked at previous records.. :sad:

[gordonquinn]

Citationcj2, where did you find that info?

[Citationcj2]

Just look at this picture.

First cadet in line, daughter of a Captain in Aerlingus, its a bit like winning a lottery amongst 3000 applicants or a total coincidence..:oh:

http://careers.aerlingus.com/media/careersaerlinguscom/styleassets/images/image-cadets-new2.png

[Fostex]

Of this years BAA FPP intake, I know several who are non-UK nationals from Spain and Italy.

Similarly I know a chap in my flying club who was selected by Shamrock last year and is not related to anyone inside the company.

[Fergal10]

Just look at this picture.

First cadet in line, daughter of a Captain in Aerlingus, its a bit like winning a lottery amongst 3000 applicants or a total coincidence..


So you don't give any credence to the possibility that with a captain in the company helping her through the interview process that she may have gotten it through good advice and her own aptitude?
And that as one of 3 successful females she is an ideal demographic to front up promotional material?

Is nepotism REALLY the most likely explanation?...
Loose the chip on your shoulder mate, it's not a good look.


Good luck to everyone applying. Don't let goobers like this put you off. It is as fair and open an opportunity than any other.

[Bloated Stomach]

Where are the black or asian cadets?....racism much? :D

[Citationcj2]

Fergal, not going enter in a debate with you, we'll see how it fairs this years round.

EI have been very obvious in their selection in the last few years, so their selection record speaks for itself, regardless of your justification, but anyway.


Good luck to all the applicants:ok:

[ManUtd1999]

So AerLingus open a fully-funded cadet scheme (including accommodation!) and all the responses here are petty comments about successful candidates' nationality and parents. How typical of PPRune......

This is the best deal offered to cadets, in Europe at least, for a very very long time. Credit to EI for doing the "right" thing rather than seeing training as a money-making exercise. Hopefully this might persuade other airlines to follow suit but I won't hold my breath.

[Vit90]

What are the real chances of a non-Irish, with 0 flying hours, MSc in Computer Science with almost 25yo(in 2 months), EU resident applicant guys? (Btw I'm from UK but indian...in the way my family (grandpas) come from India)

[gceyg]

Look it I seen where everyone is coming from with this and I do agree with the Nepotism. Aer Lingus have this culture of you hear of someone getting a job and the first thing that spring to mind is "Who do you know or who are you sleeping with?:rolleyes:"

But you never know, Application sent in and best of luck to everyone!

[Vit90]

Are you talking about this cadetship? They answer you immediately?

[oldkarim]

Nice that girl!! :E I would marry her so I'll have a place for the program as well, even if I'm fATPL..:} LOL
So the daughter of a CPT can not become a pilot? And if she becomes it is all thanks to him? :ugh::ugh:
Some people on this forum should just shut up
And from the picture you can say that they are all Irish?

[JumboJet1999]

fully-funded cadet scheme (including accommodation!)

I thought you had to pay 25% upfront?

[Airlinepilot1687]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the UK equivalent is of a 3rd level degree in any discipline with a minimum grade of 2.2 is?

Thanks in advance

[EI-mech]

Hello,

Does anyone know what the UK equivalent is of a 3rd level degree in any discipline with a minimum grade of 2.2 is?

Thanks in advance

Third Level is just another term for University.

See the following link for an explanation of degree grading:

What Exactly are university degrees (2.1, 2.2)? - The Student Room (http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=662653)

[EI-mech]

fully-funded cadet scheme (including accommodation!)
I thought you had to pay 25% upfront?

That was the case in previous years. This year the training is fully funded.

Previously, Aer Lingus part funded this training. This year, we are very pleased to announce that Aer Lingus will be funding the entire cost of the training programme for each successful candidate. We believe this ensures even greater accessibility to what is a very exciting career opportunity.

From here:

FTEJerez (http://www.ftejerez.com/selection/aerlingus)

[Fostex]

I suspect they will fund it in the same way that BA completely sponsor the BAFPP.

That is, student takes out BBVA loan for full cost of training with the airline acting as security on loan. After training is finished student begins repaying loan from salary along with tax free repayment of training costs over period of 7 years by airline.

BAFPP training cost for FTE is £84k

[PPRuNeUser0207]

''Have completed an Aviation related apprenticeship'' - Could anyone clarify what is meant by this, exactly? Would they accept someone who has been working in the engineering department of an Aero Club for non paid work as an apprentice, or do they want specific qualifications that correspond with the apprenticeship itself?.

An apprenticeship is a mean of formal/training education in Ireland. Unless you have formally trained as e.g aircraft engineer, your experience will not count towards the educational requirement. However it will count towards your application as it shows real interest.

Here's more info http://www.fas.ie/en/Training/Apprenticeships/


Best of luck to everybody.

[GeorgEGNT]

Has anybody had any questions sent to their inbox yet? I've had the acknowledgement email but no response since.

Slightly worried as it says the questions must be returned 3 days after your original application.

[DaveMac90]

GeorgEGNT,

I received the link for the questions in the same email as the acknowledgement.

"Dear Applicant

We are pleased to confirm that your application has progressed to the next phase of the 2016 Aer Lingus Cadet Pilot Training Programme.

Please, click on the link below to answer the questions and return them to us within the next three days.

Your username and password to access the questions are the following:"

[G-F0RC3]

All the talk of nepotism is nonsense. The number of rejected applicants who have relatives in the company far exceed the number who are accepted. And just because someone makes it who does happen to have a relative in the company does not mean they are any less worthy of a place.

[n_codrington]

I got an acceptance email as i clicked the submit button, and I immediately filled in and sent off my second form they sent me. So fingers crossed for the next few days/weeks.

[aviationfan123]

Does anyone know how long the application window is open for?

[aibkaresz]

Does anyone know how long the application window is open for?



The closing date for receipt of completed online application forms is 17:00 on Sunday, 13th September 2015

[aviationfan123]

Thank you. Once the application is successful, how many essay style questions are asked?

[n_codrington]

Only three.

[banjodrone]

Yep I was thinking of applying but then not. I never finished my leaving cert. I did go on to do a HND in telecommunications and other 3rd level stuff but it's not a degree no matter which way you paint it. Also by the sounds of things, having any flying qualifications, even FAA tickets is a possible no-no. Age would likely go against me too and I'm not prepared to lie about any of the above. Good luck to anyone who applies - This is one of the best things to happen in years.

[Rupert369]

I made it four essay style questions and two brief availability ones. Application submitted.

[Flying_monkey]

How much did you guys roughly write for the essay style questions? Just never know if it's to little or to much!

[n_codrington]

I mean, you can only try, mate! At least, you know?

MVazNKq31tc

[GeorgEGNT]

Thanks chaps.
Phoned FTE up who informed me that I should have received my questions but had not.
All submitted now.
:ok:

Good luck again to all. Hope to see some of you in Dublin. Fingers crossed.

[n_codrington]

Good stuff, chap. All the best and hopefully see you there!

[aviationfan123]

Does anyone know what sort of contract it is? Can't find too much info on it

[Flyguyaman]

Has anybody with a PPL been accepted to the second stage? I just had an unsuccessful automated response after applying. I have approximately 130 hrs total time.

[hazholmes]

I've been automatically rejected too with a PPL, 85 hours. Met all the other requirements so only assume it can be this? Ashame really, being penalised like that.

[gvaatc]

I was accepted with PPL+150h+ATPL theory so I don't really know what the logic is...

[aibkaresz]

Accepted too with PPL, 98 hrs, and partly finished fATPL.

[BARKINGMAD]

Re the no/little experience query, some professional training organisations prefer as close to ab initio as possible.

The RAF used at one time to prefer low/no hours trainees as less time was needed to "unteach" them the bad habits imbued from other training.

I recall as a BFTS QFI that some of the worst students were actually ex-UAS cadets from that same organisations training setup for uni students. Extra effort was needed to rectify the bad techniques they'd acquired from the UAS.

As a result, there was a sigh of relief when one was asked to cut "virgin metal" on a pressured high standards course.

Tin hat on whilst I await incoming fire from the ex-UAS instructors!!!

[wonder88]

Taken from FTE frequently asked questions:

What is the starting salary?

The starting salary is approximately €40,000 .

When do I start on Salary?

On return from Flight School, and on successful completion of the training programme, you will start on salary.

Is there a Bond?

Yes, there will be a bond in place during your training, and for a period after you commence as a First Officer.
If you leave immediately following qualification you will be liable to repay the entire cost of your training.
The bond will remain in place for a set period. The amount due will reduce depending on how long you have remained in employment following qualification.
It is only due to be paid if you resign from the company within the period of the bond. The final details of this will be confirmed to each successful candidate.

[GeorgEGNT]

PPL 67 hours
No ATPL exams
2:1 BSc degree.
1 A Level
Fully GCSE'd up.

[Black Pudding]

Can someone please tell me if it states a minimum age for applicant

Thank you

[FlyVeryHigh-]

If I recall, from the intake in 2012 (I think, could have been 2013); 10 out of the 20 had PPL's (the remainder didn't). Yes a few had connections to the airlines (dads were captains etc); however on the flipside I've also heard that there have been kids of captains who haven't even made it to assessment like many others. Also heard that in the 2012 intake only 1 of the cadets didn't have a 3rd level qualification; I think though in the 2013 intake the numbers were greater!


This will be my 3rd try for EI (1st time made assessments, 2nd didn't make it to assessments). Low hours, Degree, A-levels, GCSE's.


For those guys getting an auto reject, double check what boxes you are ticking. I nearly made the mistake of clicking the wrong Yes/No box in response to the question. Just read the question correctly; it does happen!


Finally, I just want to say this is an amazing opportunity. All costs covered?! What?! Excellent news.


Aspiring pilots should be very excited, just like I! Applications gone, and essay questions done. Just hope I don't get an email to say I haven't made it to assessment; one can only hope the prospect of bagging this fantastic opportunity last a little longer... been trying to crack this for years now! haha

[Black Pudding]

And the minimum age required was

[Hangar6]

Folks best of luck to all applicants, great to see this program running again
It is a shame so few of so many applicants will be selected but a great
Chance to go through a selection process and learn from it for the next time with EI or other carriers.

Most of your questions will have been answered in previous threads so a little research on your part will avoid posting on here.

Also boards.ie , aviation forum has further info.

EI is growing , see today's results for August, google it

Big expansion for next summer , extra USA routes and aircraft plus Shorthaul
Expansion with the return of the remain three Little Red 320s
EI has a significant number of EU nationals as pilots , they just want the best
Applicants that fit their Airline.

Only 10% are female so they want to increase that number !
Good luck and stay positive , !

[GeorgEGNT]

From the website.

To be considered you must meet the following:

Essential criteria: You must be 18 years of age on or before the 1st January 2016.

You must remember that this is an incredible opportunity and definitely life changing for those lucky individuals selected. A lot of folk will work their fingers to the bone on their applications. It's your chance to prove yourself and how good you are.
To that end it can be difficult for some when individuals come onto this forum asking for help having apparently stumbled at the very first hurdle.
Don't take the reaction too personally. Remember what's up for grabs here.

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Anyone here go through the process last year who was on the old thread?

Made it to the EI interviews last time around, fingers crossed for this time.
Fully funded ab initio training is a huge opportunity.

[Black Pudding]

GeorgEGNT

Reference me

PPL about 350 hours
14 ATPL exams
No degree.
No A Levels
No GCSE's as they were called CSEs in my days

Did not start my PPL until I was 33 years old

Did not get my first flying job until I was 39 years old. This scheme is something that we could have dream about back when I was looking for my first lucky break.

As of now, I have

1700 hours on 737-300s and 737-800s whilst based in the UK
3500 hours on Airbus 320 fleet and now a Captain based in the Middle East
Total hours 5400

Was asking the age question on behalf of my 17 year old nephew.

Good luck with your application

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Does anyone know how many places are up for grabs?

[LandingConfig]

Any Scottish applicants having trouble with the grades? The 'UK' option should actually say England.

[gordonquinn]

Noticed that on mine, just lined them up as I saw fit.

[LandingConfig]

Noticed that on mine, just lined them up as I saw fit.

Did you enter Higher or Advanced Higher or both? A levels aren't really the equivalent of either...

[GTTDI GOD]

FlyVeryHigh

There are 12 spaces. I think it will be 2 groups, 1 starting January and the other in February.

[JumboJet1999]

Only 10% are female so they want to increase that number !

Through 'positive' discrimination. . .

[Jetset150]

Rejected!

PPL 105 hours

Met all the requirements. Seems if you have a PPL and have started the ATPL exams it makes a difference!

Good luck to all!!

[aibkaresz]

I don't think so, because i have almost 100 hrs, 8 subjects of ATPL and accepted to the 2nd stage.

[FoxAlphaDelta]

Hello,

Do you think there is a real difference between a 50h PPL and a non flying hours.

I am now finishing my PPL and I'm hesitate to continue to fly or to don't log my next flying hours.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Just out of curiosity. I wonder would anyone be applying to this if they have already been accepted to the BA FPP scheme, Flybe etc with start dates soon, with the possibility of saving themselves some money in the long run.


Does anyone think that this could be happening?

[MaverickPrime]

I've a ppl, 98hrs, and a degree. No atpls. Applied days ago and still waiting for yay or nay! Have applied twice before and never got further than the application stage. :E

[nodeh586]

I've applied and sent my 'essay' answers off today.

How quick are they at saying yes or no after the closing date?

[Jakub Velicka]

My profile if it helps someone: PPL, 80 hours, class 1 medical, university degree, no ATPL exams or sitting register. Meet all other requirements except aviation apprenticeship. Received reply within one minute and accepted.

[StickAndShudder]

I applied on Thursday and got an automated response that was neither a Yay or a Nay, but rather they are having to check my application to see if it meets the requirements...

Anyone else in the same boat? How long did you have to wait for them to check yours?

Cheers

[marco127]

Hi, I give you my profile, PPL owner with 55 hours, university degree no atpl exams, and french national, received the email with the link to question instantly,

Good luck to y'all

Best Regards:ok:

[FlyVeryHigh-]

I applied on Thursday and got an automated response that was neither a Yay or a Nay, but rather they are having to check my application to see if it meets the requirements...

Anyone else in the same boat? How long did you have to wait for them to check yours?

Cheers

Some people on here have:

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057485898/1

[CiaranMel]

If you have any issues or queries about this program or your application, Please feel free to post here. I will try too provide much information as I can.

[UAQZEN]

hi everyone

I've just applied to the programme and have submitted my answer to the 6 questions. The only thing i'm worried about is the fact that i'm only 18. Do you think that i have any chance? I know that i'm within the age restrictions but i'm thinking, will they really allow a potentially 19/20 year old be a first captain on an A320?

[EZY_FR]

The whole point of the selection process is to assess your suitability for becoming a captain later on in your career. You will not become a captain for the airline that quickly, I can assure you that :E.

On a side note, my written answers have now been submitted. Good luck to all those waiting!

[bsal]

I have a PPL with 146hrs passed 14 ATPL's in 2009 so they are out of date now and meet the other requirements and have got nothing back yet. I applied on Friday.

[GeorgEGNT]

People still waiting for answers.

I spoke directly with FTE about it. I asked whether there was a a tech issue or whether they simply hadn't decided.

I was told I should have received my email but of course I hadn't for some reason. The chap on the phone re-sent it again straight away and I submitted them that day.

Give them a call. I phoned the number on the website and asked for the assessment team.

Good luck.

[EZY_FR]

To anyone that applied for the scheme last year, did you have to wait long to find out whether you received an invite or not to attempt the aptitude tests?

[Franchii]

I applied a week ago, answered the 6 questions and now still waiting for the answer for next phase.

PPL 70 hours, no ATPL, no Secondary school degree.

[EI-mech]

To anyone that applied for the scheme last year, did you have to wait long to find out whether you received an invite or not to attempt the aptitude tests?

Invites went out by email last year, and if I recall correctly they came quite quickly after the closing date for applications, within days.

FTE are very seasoned when it comes to recruiting cadets and that showed in how fluid the whole process was last year, expect more of the same this time around.

[darkroomsource]

I applied last week.
250 hours, FAA CPL.
As far as I can tell, I have all the qualifications and none of the disqualifications.
I got an almost immediate response back saying "we're sorry"

[Chilly13]

Just had an email saying that i meet the requirements and got a link to answer 3 questions.

My background: - No degree, no PPL, 10 years in the Royal Air Force. Was expecting to be turned away.

Good luck to everyone else.

[gordonquinn]

Hi Ciaran,

Are you within the selection process?

Cheers

[LandingConfig]

Looking back at previous years' threads, it would appear that assessment invites are distributed by phone, is it safe to assume that the same will apply this year?

No point in checking the junk folder all the time in that case!

[EZY_FR]

I just got off the phone with FTE and they said we should expect to hear back at the start of next week. Fingers crossed for us all!

[nabanoba]

Just to note as well that in previous years invites to the second round didn't all come out at the same time. If you do not receive an invite in the first batch it doesn't mean you won't receive one.

Best of luck to all!

[GOINGTOFLY]

Hi do you know if you have to provide a monetary bond for this scheme?

[EZY_FR]

No bonds, they pay for everything bar your own expenses, etc.

[justletmefly]

I'm sure someone has already posted this but just to confirm - If you hold an ATPL or even CPL you won't be considered. I hold a (f)ATPL and when I applied yesterday I didn't receive an email to confirm or deny how I did. So when I rang FTEJerez a man called Simon told me I was unsuccessful for that reason - "This is an ab initio program"
As far as I see it you have two options. Don't apply, or lie and deal with the consequences later

[coffeegeek]

Dutch nationality, probably the oldest of the applicants, restarted flying recently when I found out about the rationalised Part-MED uncorrected vision requirements:8.

Came through the first screening with 15 hrs of training (+45 hrs before 2002), MSc degree, no advanced aviation exams.

I'll keep you posted, good luck to all who apply!

[FlyVeryHigh-]

They even give you an allowance ;)

[gordonquinn]

I can't think of a better scheme tbh

[Lucky_Luke2]

Just sent in the essays... Really hoping to get a positive answer.

As a reference: 18 years, just finished school, great interest in aviation and no experience/licences.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Just sent in the essays... Really hoping to get a positive answer.

As a reference: 18 years, just finished school, great interest in aviation and no experience/licences.

Aye, those essay questions took hours and put years on me!

[SomaliPilot]

Hi Ciaran,

Do you have any experience with the assessement day? What to expect?
I would like to know in order to see if i can prepare anything.

Cheers

[SomaliPilot]

Fingers crossed everyone here :ok: Perfect scheme which other airlines
ought to be copying! For those here since we are all in the same boat has
anyone been looking for anything regarding assessment? What should we expect? Is there anything online which you could at least prepare?
Last thing i'd like is to come unprepared and ruin my chances just in case.

Cheers.

[EZY_FR]

You can prepare for the tests if you want, but it is far from guaranteed that you will receive an invite for an interview. It is likely more than 3000 will apply to this scheme and, based on the number of dates available for assessments, I can only imagine about 160 or so will be invited. Best of luck

[EZY_FR]

If you have ever been to an FTE assessment day, or if you have ever been to the FPP selection, then you could probably assume that the format will be similar. Nobody will go into detail here to avoid giving away an advantage though, especially with so few places.

[funkyt111]

EZY,

There will be more than 160. Last year, FTE released assessment dates rather sporadically over a month period so if you have not received a rejection yet, take it as a good news.

Best of luck folks.

[Rupert369]

if you have not received a rejection yet, take it as a good news.


Has anyone who answered the essay questions heard either way yet?

[EZY_FR]

Funky
160 were invited to the initial stage last year, and Alex from FTE told me they will definitely not invite anymore than 200 applicants to the initial phase.

Also, you won't hear back until the end of the week at the earliest, because those who apply today need to be given 3 days to complete the essay questions.

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Applications close today - with last possible entry of the essays going to be Wednesday evening.

Last year the first round of invites for assessment were sent on the Friday then, with the first set of assessments 2 weeks after that.

It is one week sooner this year, first assessments are the 29th I believe.

After assessments finished last year, we heard again the following Friday regarding an interview at Shamrock house, which was another 2 weeks later on a date in November.

160 was the number we were told last year, who were invited to assessment in DCU.

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Also there doesn't seem too much of it being advertised or much fuss about it this year compared to last two years..

Considering it's 100% funded I wonder what the application numbers are compared to last year. Just my 2c that it doesn't seem as hyped up or 'put out there'. Anyone else get that feeling?

[EZY_FR]

Yeah, I get that impression as well. More chances for us I guess 😀

[ThrustCruise]

Hi all! I sent back the questions a few days ago. Does anyone know how many applicants managed to pass all the assessments?

All the best,
Greetings from Italy.

[sosu89]

All,

From last year's selection, does anyone know how many students were not Irish nationality??

I am not Irish but I am EU citizen. However, I am still in doubt whether to go or not if I get chosen for the assessment day!!! I would prefer spending €500 (fee + traveling) on flying hours training rather then applying for assessment day with very low probability to get chosen!!

Currently, doing my last 10 hours flying to sit for the ppl exam, 26 years old and hold a degree and masters in engineering.

What are your comments, cheers

[Speed_Alive_V1]

My assessment group was made up of Irish and UK applicants. Can't speak for the rest of the groups however, I'm sure there were some EU nationals.

[Tristar95]

I am not Irish but I am EU citizen. However, I am still in doubt whether to go or not if I get chosen for the assessment day!!! I would prefer spending €500 (fee + traveling) on flying hours training rather then applying for assessment day with very low probability to get chosen!!

I have the same question about the probability to get chosen for not Irish applicants... Does anyone know how many candidates have been chosen for the training in the last years?

[EZY_FR]

I think 15 were granted places last year. I don't know how many of them weren't Irish though. I do hope they start hiring more Scots this time around ;p

[sosu89]

I totally understand that the selection majority will be that of irish students. Anyhow, still not yet decided whether to go or not if I get chosen. We wait and see :)

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Application process has now closed.

Best of luck all.

[Tristar95]

Yes... we have to wait ;)

Best of luck to everyone!!

[LostInFlight88]

Has anyone heard ANYTHING after submitting their application? I'm worried cause it says you have to submitt within 3days of submitting the application. But then you get an email saying to answer the questionnaire within 3 days. But I received the questionnaire a day later. So which is it? 3 days from when you submit the application (which gives you 2 days to answer the questionnaire) or is it 3 days from when you receive the email to the link of the questionnaire? :sad:

[EZY_FR]

We will find out on either Thursday or Friday whether we made it to phase 3 or not. Apparently they have received approx 3400 applications and they are looking to take on no more than 20 candidates :/

[FlyVeryHigh-]

We will find out on either Thursday or Friday whether we made it to phase 3 or not. Apparently they have received approx 3400 applications and they are looking to take on no more than 20 candidates :/

Considering this is fully funded I'm surprised by it only being 3400 applications as last year there were I'm excess of 3000 applications too.

Anyway, I'll start packing for Jerez... haha

[aibkaresz]

Last year the invitation letters arrived pretty continuously (showed an apparent connection to application date), so if anyone doesn't get an invitation immediately when others are already invited, don't give up on the hopes!

Cheers

[afusaru]

Where can I read about the selection process, as their link is not available anymore? Thanks

[LandingConfig]

So are invitations by letter? I gathered from previous years that it was by phone...

[aibkaresz]

I was invited to an other scheme, it was by e-mail.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Anyone else know the feeling of reading through the answers you submitted and realising that you've completely messed a question up? No? I do... ;(

[EZY_FR]

I felt like that with one of my fpp essay questions, it's not nice. I always check my answers 15 times before I click that cursed submit button.

[Lucky_Luke2]

Yeah, kinda know that feel... I was doing my evening routine, when I suddenly thought "oh jesus you could have written that and that and it would have been so much better". Worst part was watching the change of my facial expressions in the mirror. :yuk:

But I think everybody has that moment at some point.

[EZY_FR]

Lost inflight
You have to submit your answers within 3 days of receipt of the email.

[Pilot123456]

Hey guys,

i applied on thursday 11 am and send back the answered questions at about 7 pm on Sunday so like they said 3 days after i received the email with the link to the questions. but likeaibkaresz here in this thread said they closed the closing date for receipt of completed online application forms is 17:00 on Sunday, 13th September 2015.

Where did you get these information. Does this mean I am out of the program now??

Thanks for help!

[aibkaresz]

Hey guys,

i applied on thursday 11 am and send back the answered questions at about 7 pm on Sunday so like they said 3 days after i received the email with the link to the questions. but likeaibkaresz here in this thread said they closed the closing date for receipt of completed online application forms is 17:00 on Sunday, 13th September 2015.

Where did you get these information. Does this mean I am out of the program now??

Thanks for help!

Sunday was the deadline only for the 1st questionaire. From Sunday 5PM the last applicants still have 72 hours to submit the questions (just like anyone else).

Edit: the closing date was written in the FAQ

[Garfly]

Does "accepted" mean you are through to the second stage 4 questions- results out now stage?

[Pilot123456]

But in the e mail they said that you have to answer these questions within the next 3 days and not within the next 72 hours. I think there is a difference isn't it?

:/

kind regards

[EZY_FR]

Don't know if any of you guys read the boards.ie thread, but according to a poster, an Aer lingus training captain said we should hear back on Monday. I hope this isn't the case, that leaves us with a roughly one week's notice.

[EZY_FR]

Does "accepted" mean you are through to the second stage 4 questions- results out now stage?
When did you get the email?

[aibkaresz]

Pilot123456,

72 hours = 3 days. The thing is, you don't have to worry! :)

EZY_FR,

Ah that would be a killer, I'm jumping to every e-mail sound (and I recieve a lot from other sources :( )

[Speed_Alive_V1]

I read that post in Boards too.

Most likely someone 'in the know'. The whole point of EI outsourcing pre-selection to FTE is so they won't be involved too much at this point so I doubt that information is very accurate.

Last year we received the invites on the Friday then some others sporadically through the next week upto and including during the assessments as cancellations came up.

[EZY_FR]

I think we'll find out either tomorrow or Monday, I reckon it'll be too much to expect the fto assessors to get back to us the day after the final essay responses were submitted.

[A-380]

Invitations are now being sent out!!

[LandingConfig]

Excellent! By what means, email I assume?

[PPRuNeUser0207]

Has anyone actually received an invite to assessment?

[Flying_monkey]

Yes, invitation received by email.

[Kermo Kermit]

Not heard anything, no news is good news I guess.

What time did the invites go out this afternoon?

[A-380]

Yes, email from FTE

[Flying_monkey]

17.16 UK time.

[PPRuNeUser0207]

UK applications getting their invites first to make travel arrangements?

[LandingConfig]

UK applications getting their invites first to make travel arrangements?

I've heard nothing yet.

[GeorgEGNT]

Well done to those with invites.

I've personally not heard anything. Suppose early days yet. :/

[Kermo Kermit]

Could it be the case that those that submitted applications early in the window are receiving news first. I submitted towards the end and have not heard anything yet.

[EZY_FR]

Haven't heard anything either. I submitted mine on the 7th. Alex from FTE told me Monday at the latest. No news is good news!

[Kermo Kermit]

I wonder if they will be sending out any e-mails over the weekend?

I've not heard of anyone whose had a rejection yet so could it be that the invites are going out first so that they can fill any places that are not taken up with people who have been initially rejected?

I'm really wishing that that I submitted earlier in the window now.

Nothing like a good conspiracy theory!!

[A-380]

I submitted answers on the 5th, so that would be fairly early in the window...

[ShayYoung]

People who did get a reply did you have to confirm anything upon receiving the email?

[Cadet A320]

Congratzzz for the ones who got emails from FTE for the assesment :D:ok:
Did any one get emails today??? Any updates ??

[Flying_monkey]

@shayyoung

Yes, a email to confirm your attendance has to be sent.

[Lockheed_Blackbird]

Hi everyone.
I was just wondering if Aer Lingus requires an EASA Class I ONLY ?
I've read in the FAQ they will ask to pass a company medical.
What is it? What do we need to pass this medical successfully? Do they have specific internal rules?
Thanks for your answers folks

[PPRuNeUser0207]

Hi everyone.
I was just wondering if Aer Lingus requires an EASA Class I ONLY ?
I've read in the FAQ they will ask to pass a company medical.
What is it? What do we need to pass this medical successfully? Do they have specific internal rules?
Thanks for your answers folks

EASA Class 1 medical required, you'll probably get all the specific details on the Irish Aviation Authority website.
(You don't need to hold a medical, just be capable of passing it).

[Lockheed_Blackbird]

Thanks Jumpseat M.
But in the FAQ they're speaking of a "Company Medical". I found on previous AL threads people talking about of a Colour Vision paper (Ishihara test) that has to be given to AL. Are you sure that the Class 1 is enough?

[bluebaron1993]

Guys check your junk mail. I just checked mines and found the invite in there.

[CiaranMel]

Hi guys,

Haven't been on his for a few weeks! Some of you may have received invitations to the Assessment Center, but don't worry you still have a chance! Due to the huge number of applications , FTE would be finalising their last decisions on applications. A number of years ago, they would contact you anytime before the dates provided for testing.

28th of September- 9th of October(Assessment center Examination dates)

For example, if it is the 27th of September they could call you, if not email you to attend the assessment centre the next day. There is still hope.

Cheers! Hope I've helped

Ciaran

[sosu89]

I submitted my questions on the 8th. Still without reply :bored:

I guess whoever did not get a reply by Friday its game over :confused::confused:

Good luck who made it through.

[Kermo Kermit]

Seems strange that they have sent invites out but no rejections yet. What is the purpose of holding the rejection e-mails back? Could it be that only the invites for the first week of assessments have been sent out?

[EZY_FR]

Invites were sent out sporadically last year, don't worry!

[AA757]

Well you mentioned, that it would be Monday at the latest..

[GeorgEGNT]

I telephoned FTE today.

The representative confirmed that not all invites had been sent out and that they were expecting more to be sent out today.

A second chance. Good luck to all still waiting.

[gordonquinn]

Guessing most have now been told, oh well I got my SSEA rating today so I'll just enjoy that :ok:

[EZY_FR]

I'm really hoping we find out today, waiting to hear how I have done has been a killer!

[aibkaresz]

Also waiting for good news! Kills me too :ugh:

[Cadet A320]

I still didnt get any replies from FTE :/ Did anyone get rejected ??
Any hot news from FTE ??

[Lucky_Luke2]

Seriously I don't understand why you are so nervous guys.

I mean it's great opportunity, but there was close to nothing that we could have done that would have improved our chances or whatever.
So I'll wait whether I get an invitation or not, and if I wasn't succesfull, that's not my fault since you can't perform either good or bad in this kind of test, you just gotta write what you think.

[EZY_FR]

Interview invite received! Anyone going on the 6th October?

[GeorgEGNT]

Good stuff buddy.
Hopefully the floodgates will open now.

[MarkSRFC]

Congrats to those who have received positive news. Also received an invitation in the last half an hour. Check you junk folder guys, that's where I found mine.

[banditb6]

Still nothing for me as yet. What did the invite say? Is it just an assesment or will it be interview (single or group) also ?

[GeorgEGNT]

No invite at this end unfortunately :sad:

I did have an issue receiving FTE's first e-mail. I guess there is a tiny chance it could have happened again. Is the invite from FTE themselves?

Good luck to all of those making the trip to Dublin. Enjoy!

[PPRuNeUser0207]

Well done to everybody who has received invites so far and the very best of luck at the assessment stage.

Many Irish comrades getting invites?

[Franchii]

Application sent on Septembre, 3rd, and still awaiting for the email. Sounds really bad for me...
Crongrats for whose who has got a positive answer.

[AA757]

Franchii, no invitation received & I'm French as well

[aanzanix]

Still waiting

[Kermo Kermit]

Has anyone received a thanks but no thanks yet?

If they are done with sending out the invites then why have FTE not sent out any rejections. I wondered if the invites were being sent out based on the assessment dates are. It will be interesting to see if any invites are sent out tomorrow.

Would be nice to hear now though either way

[Tristar95]

Well done guys!
I'm Italian...I've heard nothing yet, but still waiting :rolleyes:

[Gregitto]

Applied 3rd September and still no answer, sounds kind of samey from what I'm reading... On another forum, a member posted that he had been informed that there was a "reserve list". FTE/Aer Lingus would pick names from this reserve list in the event that some of the invited candidates could not make it. They also added that the payment for the exams had to be made 4 working days prior to the event. This would mean apparently that we could still get answers until the 4th-5th October. This doesn't help much someone like me who needs to book a flight and accommodation!!! But if it gets me a fully sponsored flight training then I will take it gladly! Waiting impatiently for an answer, whether it is affirm or negative.

[marco127]

Same, French too, any foreigner called for an interview yet ?

:ok:

[EZY_FR]

The invite came from FTE.

[LandingConfig]

Still nothing here either... :confused:

[EZY_FR]

Any news guys? Mary Jo from FTE told me that invites would be sent out Monday evening/ Tuesday. Dont give up!

[Gregitto]

Still no news this morning. Hopefully there will be an e-mail waiting by tonight!

[GeorgEGNT]

"Most were sent out on Friday."
"Another batch were sent out yesterday"
"The rest should be going out today"

[EZY_FR]

More will be sent out mate, Im here in FTE right now and I spoke to the training advisers.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

More will be sent out mate, Im here in FTE right now and I spoke to the training advisers.

What you doing down in FTE you big jet setter! Spain this week, Dublin the week after next?!

[Gregitto]

Good news! Hopefully...

[Garfly]

Just spoke with FTE. The replies are going out this afternoon and Wednesday at the latest. They said to double check Junk folders as well.

[EZY_FR]

FTE Assessments and visiting friends

[EZY_FR]

Anyone know the cheapest place to stay at for the assessment?

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Any of the Dublin airport area hotels - they're about €49 a night normally

Is assessment in DCU again or where?

[Airlinepilot1687]

Hello,

In regards to FTE saying they are still giving out invites, did they specify which day this would be until? Has any one had a thanks but no thanks email?

[Kermo Kermit]

Anyone received any invites tonight?

[Colbarr]

I received mine about an hour and a half ago. The 9th October. Delighted and relieved!

[gordonquinn]

Got my rejection email, good luck to all those who got through this stage

[polar25]

I don't suppose that they'll be sending any more invites out now? Just curious as to why some of us still haven't heard either way.

[Kermo Kermit]

Could some people be being kept as stanby in case some people choose not to accept the invitations?

Have many received rejections?

[Gregitto]

Yes there is a reserve list. I talk more about it in the previous page if you want to check it out. Still no answer on my end.

[Jakub Velicka]

Still neither message today, so maybe the game continues.

[EI-mech]

Got an invite today. Stay positive if you haven't heard!

[POH]

Applied on 11th, no news until now.

[CiaranMel]

I'm sorry to hear for those who have received rejection emails, there is always next year! Guys who haven't received a response, please be patient!!! You still have a chance. There's a lot of negativity in this forum, Stay positive!

I wish you the best for your future career
good luck

[aibkaresz]

Anyone out of Ireland or the UK received an invite?

Edit: just got my rejection letter, good luck to all invited!

[L8Aviator]

Rejection email received from FTE. Has anyone in their 30s (or beyond) received an invite to the assessment?

[GeorgEGNT]

PFO received.
Good luck to all making the trip.

[banditb6]

Its a no for me!:sad:

[LandingConfig]

Finally got mine about 10 minutes ago, it's a no for me too.

[Jakub Velicka]

No for me as well... never mind, good luck to all who made it!

[Gregitto]

It's a no!

[nodeh586]

@EZY

I am also attending on the 6th October.

See you there!

[EZY_FR]

What time are you attending?

I'm really sorry to see all the rejection emails. Keep your chin up and use this as a learning experience!

[Yaw damper 2013]

Did anyone get through who submitted their application after the 3rd sept?

[EZY_FR]

I submitted mine on the 7th.

[Yaw damper 2013]

I submitted mine on the 7th.

Thanks for the info, best of luck with the application

[Aveheart]

Received a letter of rejection from FTE about 6 Hrs ago.
How many from outside UK, Ireland & Scotland received acceptance letter?
I was quiet sure of acceptance basis my answers to the essay questions. This came as a surprise!

[Finals27]

Hi folks! I applied last year for this cadetship and thus would like to share some advice. If you have not heard anything back yet about being accepted for the assessment phase, then you are probably in a holding pool. I didn't hear back about the assessment stage until I got a phone call from FTEjerez directly, asking if I could come in for an assessment. I got this phone call (if my mind serves me correctly) early on in the final week of assessments. I got the call because a position had become available, for whatever reason. Thus as the saying goes, no news is good news, and you have the added advantage of more time to prepare. Be ready though to go at the last minute. Good luck!

[nodeh586]

@EZY

8.30am start

It's an 8 hour day, so everyone starts together I think?

[HeartyMeatballs]

Scotland is in the UK.

[SomaliPilot]

Guys good luck got rejection letter too! It seems that the first candidates got selected and the shear volume of applicants overloaded FTE Jerez. Did anyone had a solid reason they got rejected? Mine just says due too much applicants they couldnt give feedback on my application. :ugh:

All my brothers in here good luck make sure you do your best!!!

[Gregitto]

I believe that's the default answer for the candidates who didn't make it through.

[Aveheart]

@HeartyMeatballs
Yes I am aware, that was just a typo in rush.

@somilipilot
Yes, That's the default answer everyone got.

Congrats to all who made it to the Assessment round.

[L8Aviator]

@Somalipilot

What do you mean 'first candidates got selected'? Do you mean those who returned their answers earlier in the process were selected? Do you have anything to back up that theory?

Also, for anyone who made it through, are any of you over 30?

[EZY_FR]

Guys good luck got rejection letter too! It seems that the first candidates got selected and the shear volume of applicants overloaded FTE Jerez. Did anyone had a solid reason they got rejected? Mine just says due too much applicants they couldnt give feedback on my application. :ugh:

All my brothers in here good luck make sure you do your best!!!
The ones got accepted to the next stage were invited based on the quality of their answers, NOT the first group of cadets that applied!

[EZY_FR]

@EZY

8.30am start

It's an 8 hour day, so everyone starts together I think?

I start at 11am, and I was told my assessment would last approx 8 hours as well.

[SomaliPilot]

@EZY_FR I see that makes sense now indeed. Either way good luck mate!

[elijah sunwa]

am interested to be come one of the world best pilots. can i get an opportunity to train with you?

[nodeh586]

@EZY

Fair enough, enjoy the lie in!

Seems there is more than one group a day...

[L8Aviator]

Do we know if each application was personally reviewed, or do they scan for key words?

Interested in if there were other criteria that had a real impact though could not be made formal, e.g. age of candidate, location etc.

I guess there will only be speculative answers on that.

Good luck to those through to Dublin.

[Gregitto]

@L8Aviator

I think with the amount of applications they received, they had to implement some sort of filtering system (possibly more complex than just age and location, but never the less, those two were probably in the criteria).
However, those who got through did so thanks to their past and present situation, as well as the quality of their answers, and therefore was well deserved. Well done!

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Anyone else waiting to hear?

I haven't heard anything either way at all

[Finals27]

Anyone else waiting to hear?

I haven't heard anything either way at all

You are probably on a reserve list if anyone pulls out...see my post on the previous page.

[Tristar95]

The same for me :)

[EZY_FR]

Each application was reviewed and read by a member of the selection team, I personally spoke to a member of the training advisor team about the form screening process.

[SomaliPilot]

@EZY_FR Could you perhaps share what they were looking for in each application? like the benchmark?

keyword? I mean the screening process thank you in advance!

[EZY_FR]

I have no idea what it was they were looking for. They did mention keywords, but it was, in general, down to what they called exceptional essay answers.

I spent a lot of time thinking about the qualities of a pilot and moulding my answers to fit those competencies. I also think part of it is down to your background as well, or your interest in aviation, what you studied, whether you've flown an aircraft before, etc. Think about what you could do to make yourself stand out when developing your answers, what have I done, or what can I do to show the airline why I deserve a shot?

[EZY_FR]

May be of interest to some...

FTE selected me in April for assessment for the BAFPP, I attended two further assessments at Waterside and was given a place on the BAFPP. Unfortunately due to a combination of my current employment contract and personal situation I was forced to turn down the BAFPP as I could not start the course until next year.

I applied to the Aer Lingus scheme and again spent time on my essay answers. I am an Irish national and it would have been an ideal opportunity for me. Alas, I was rejected by FTE.

So less that six months after FTE told me I was a suitable candidate for the BAFPP, something that I subsequently proved by gaining a place, they have told me they now no longer consider me worthy of an assessment. To me that does not give me much confidence in their recruitment process. I am not naive enough to expect that success at the BAFPP automatically guarantees me a place with Aer Lingus. But what I am surprised at is that when FTE and BA previously identified me as having a high level of aptitude for flight training, I was rejected at an early stage.

Finally, I might add that I am 34, which I suspect had an awful lot to do with the response. Something that is of course illegal under EU law, but impossible to prove.

Fostex

I am so sorry to hear about your situation. To go through all that prep for BA and find out you can't do it due to commitments must feel awful. Chin up mate, that golden opportunity is waiting for you!

[HeartyMeatballs]

It's unfortunate about the BAFPP however they're probably thinking so,etching along the lines of 'if he turned down the BAFPP, who's to say he won't turn it down this time?'

[piravlos01]

Finally, I might add that I am 34, which I suspect had an awful lot to do with the response. Something that is of course illegal under EU law, but impossible to prove

There was no box to submit your age at the Aer Lingus application form.

[Gregitto]

There was no box to submit your age at the Aer Lingus application form.
If I remember correctly, they did ask for your date of birth.

[GTTDI GOD]

They did not ask d.o.b. only if you are over 18.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

Did anyone get an email confirmation of payment for Assessment Centre?


I paid and took a screenshot of the screen a few days ago, but haven't received any email confirmation.


When paying it got on to the screen where my authorisation code was on the bottom right, and when I pressed continue it just took me back to the FTE Jerez page to enter my details again (Name, DoB, Email etc)

[EI-mech]

Did anyone get an email confirmation of payment for Assessment Centre?


I paid and took a screenshot of the screen a few days ago, but haven't received any email confirmation.


When paying it got on to the screen where my authorisation code was on the bottom right, and when I pressed continue it just took me back to the FTE Jerez page to enter my details again (Name, DoB, Email etc)

I had exactly the same experience except when it gave the option to print the receipt, I clicked print and saved it as a PDF.
You have proof of payment which is all FTE require so don't worry about it.

[FlyVeryHigh-]

I had exactly the same experience except when it gave the option to print the receipt, I clicked print and saved it as a PDF.
You have proof of payment which is all FTE require so don't worry about it.

Ah no worries, I'll just get my printscreen printed out!

Cheers!

[Mazzy28]

Afternoon chaps,

Anyone attending the assessment centre on the 28.09.15? Look forward to seeing some of you there, and the best of luck to all.

Cheers

[Glida]

Good luck everyone for your interviews! have mine soon :hmm:

[EZY_FR]

Good luck to all those doing the assessments this week!

[Rupert369]

Is anyone here going to assesment on 2nd October?

Good luck to everyone!

[UAQ805]

Is anyone going to assessments on the 30th September? Also, am I right in thinking that this is an assessment day with FTE, and the subsequent interview is with Flybe themselves?

[UAQ805]

Is anyone going to assessment on the 30th of September?

Also, is this the FTE assessment and the subsequent one is with Aer Lingus?

[EZY_FR]

The assessment is ran by FTE at Aer Lingus' headquarters in Dublin.

[UAQ805]

Will the day be anything about Aer Lingus in particular, or is it purely the entrance assessments for FTE?

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Last year there was a Q&A session with an EI captain (ex-cadet). It was a sit down and he went through what to expect from company and what would be expected of you, and the likes. It was quite informative. I remember last year someone asked whether it would be ATPL or MPL and he wasn't certain

Also received my invite so shall see some of you folks soon.

[EZY_FR]

I think the scheme will run as an ATPL programme this year. As a result of new regulations, I believe FTE is not allowed to run any MPLs, which is why the Flybe cadets have had to have their MPL scheme converted into an ATPL.

BTW, well done Speed Alive! When are you attending the assessment?

[EZY_FR]

UAQ Yes, there will be some involvement with Aer Lingus. As with any job interview you go for, you should think about what you would do to prepare. What do companies want to hear, want would they want from you, etc?

[nodeh586]

Regarding the payment,

I had to have two attempts, first time one of my cards failed (no idea why) but it stated "Method of payment nonavailable for its card"

Second, another card went through and gave me a receipt so to speak.

[Speed_Alive_V1]

Oh it's back to ATPL? That's very interesting, I had thought it was an MPL.

So the guys last year thought they were going to an MPL course but ended up doing ATPL?

My assessment is near the end of next week, enjoying my preparation at the moment and glad to still be in the game. It's nice we are in Shamrock House at this point and not a different location - closer to airport and get to meet more company staff.

Best of luck to all doing their assessments at the moment.

[Approach27L]

Evening all,

Anyone attending Shamrock House on the 9th October?