"Join the Navy - not if I can't log on to Facebook"!

[Biggus]

I first read about this in a reasonably respectable newspaper. This was the first internet link on the subject that I found:

Youngsters don't want to serve on Royal Navy submarines because they can't log on to Facebook while under the waves | InterPressPage (http://ipresspage.com/news/youngsters-dont-want-to-serve-on-royal-navy-submarines-because-they-cant-log-on-to-facebook-while-under-the-waves)

[roundsounds]

http://youtu.be/Ch5z3DMC3RA

[Fluffy Bunny]

Here's the link without the clickthru ad revenue generator.
Youngsters won't join Royal Navy because they can't go on Facebook | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3207736/Youngsters-don-t-want-serve-Royal-Navy-submarines-t-log-Facebook-waves.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)

[Bollotom]

Actually I'm not too sure that I want FB deprived youngsters with their fingers on the nuclear trigger. :cool:

[Flight_Idle]

The Royal Navy seem to have gone soft. I say, bring back the rum ration, keel hauling & the lash (Well, maybe not the lash, some pay good money for that)

[Union Jack]

The Royal Navy seem to have gone soft. I say, bring back the rum ration, keel hauling & the lash (Well, maybe not the lash, some pay good money for that) - Flight Idle

It seems more likely that it's not so much the Navy, but the youth of today who have gone soft, with the inevitable knock on effect. Nevertheless, Flight Idle's solution might boost recruiting - with flogging optional of course....:uhoh:

Curiously enough, I recall that, umpteen years ago, when I was standing my first ever watch as Officer of the Watch, a furious leading hand appeared on the bridge with four junior sailors in tow whom he wished to be charged with gambling, since he had found them playing cribbage for pennies.

In his own words, "When I joined the Navy, Sir, it was rum, bum and baccy, now it's Schweppes, self abuse, and Silk Cut, but gambling I cannot stand"!:=

Actually I'm not too sure that I want FB deprived youngsters with their fingers on the nuclear trigger. - Bollotom

Fortunately, it's only the CO and the XO who do.:ok:

Jack

[charliegolf]

This is market research- that's how it works. I see no need for surprise or outrage. I joined the air force- join the navy, not in a million!

There was no Facebook then, but there were creature comforts you don't get on HM's war canoes- why join other than for a real vocation?

CG

[t43562]

Nobody in the forces should have a "smartphone" anyhow, IMO.

They are spying devices. With the right intercepts or malware on only a few phones you could probably work out a great deal about dispositions, intentions etc. Certainly about morale and other issues. The countries where the data is ultimately stored (pictures with GPS co-ordinates attached etc etc) can of course stick their hands in the till any time they like.

[VinRouge]

Nobody in the forces should have a "smartphone" anyhow, IMO.

They are spying devices. With the right intercepts or malware on only a few phones you could probably work out a great deal about dispositions, intentions etc. Certainly about morale and other issues. The countries where the data is ultimately stored (pictures with GPS co-ordinates attached etc etc) can of course stick their hands in the till any time they like.

Always interesting when I show android users what comes up when you Google location... Google location uses base station triangulation rather than GPS and is blinking accurate.

IOS users have the same problem, except all their data is kept on a file on the phone....

[Tankertrashnav]

bring back the rum ration, keel hauling & the lash

No problem bringing back buggery - it's legal now ;)

[ShotOne]

Absolutely right about smartphone use. An independent group was able to plot in detail the movements of the missile unit suspected of shooting down the Malaysian 777 largely through social media posts.

[Stanwell]

C'mon you chaps, get with it.

I was recently told by a brat with attitude..
"Things have changed now. - Get used to it".

So there we go... OK?

[Toadstool]

Stanwell

quite right. Next thing, you'll be wanting putties and Spitfires.

Things have changed, including Maslows Hierarchy of needs. No1 is now wi-fi

[brokenlink]

Anyone know how to cure addiction to FB btw? Preferably one that does not involve throwing the home hub out the window!

[Willard Whyte]

Much as I could do without FB, it behoves the military to keep up, not attempt to turn back society's clock. Waste of time putting fingers in dykes.

Memories of RAFP disabling the Wi-Fi at Waddington's Hive come to mind, despite the vast majority of nearby MQs having it.

[Flight_Idle]

My earlier post was in fact a little tongue in cheek (To a certain extent)


Times change, book learning, seemingly a thing of the past, with 'Google' at one's fingertips, giving 'Instant facts' for people to chew on.


Food for thought about how they managed in the Nelson days of sail, maybe months to get a message around the world, with all the faffing about at the time. Then radio with Morse code, all those dits & dars.


Then computer time, at first a thing for specialists, then gradually creeping into the wider world. School sprogs in America, with a computer terminal, waiting patiently for their own terminal to come online for an hour, to they could experiment with their own self taught program for 'Noughts & crosses (Tick tak toe) for the Americans.


Now, we have reached the stage where the utterly brainless are adept at using computers, thanks to the 'Plug & play' & all coding done for them.

So, the young never look in wonder at 'Colour television' any longer, times change.


In my opinion, the service person of today, is still made of the same stuff, just different times.

[alfred_the_great]

Actually I'm not too sure that I want FB deprived youngsters with their fingers on the nuclear trigger. - Bollotom

Fortunately, it's only the CO and the XO who do.:ok:

Jack

Actually, it's the WEO.

[andyy]

CO and WEO.

[Basil]

I was recently told by a brat with attitude..
"Things have changed now. - Get used to it".

You should have told the little sod: "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!"
That wid hiv pit his gas in a peep - as we used to say in Greenock :ok:

[Union Jack]

Fortunately, it's only the CO and the XO who do....

....in the command qualified context, which is what I'm confident Bollotom was talking about, and of course the WEO does too in a different context.

Jack

[teeteringhead]

Food for thought about how they managed in the Nelson days of sail, maybe months to get a message around the world, with all the faffing about at the time. Indeed so. One of my favourite - if sad - "dits" on the slow comms of that sort of time concerns the Battle of New Orleans (of Lonnie Donegan and "Col Pakenham" fame.)

The "Battle" was really a series of engagements from Christmas 1814 to early Jan 1815. Nearly 3000 personnel on both sides were KIA, WIA or MIA. The War (of 1812) was in fact ended by the Treaty of Ghent - signed on Christmas Eve.

But nobody in theatre knew ......... :(

[Stanwell]

Basil,
Re the 'plus ca change...' maxim, I'd have to write it down for him, for a start.

Then.. it would be interesting to see what 'Goggle translate' came up with. :rolleyes:

[Basil]

Stanwell, curiously, Google comes up with:
'What goes around comes around.'
in addition to:
'The more things change the more they stay the same.'

. . or did you mean 'pit his gas in a peep' ;)