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Courtney Mil
22nd Jun 2015, 11:32
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ&feature=youtu.be

Fortissimo
22nd Jun 2015, 11:52
The aircraft was obviously not cleared for cat operations, and it was probably an illegal CAT flight anyway. Not recommended, fly with someone else.

John Farley
22nd Jun 2015, 11:55
Super CM. Thanks.

The Oberon
22nd Jun 2015, 11:56
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ&feature=youtu.be
CM, reminds me of a 70 Sqn. Hastings F700 entry.
"Mice seen in rear hold" to which some enterprising rigger had responded "Cat installed in rear hold"

DCThumb
22nd Jun 2015, 12:10
Was that a CAT 1 approach?

Tashengurt
22nd Jun 2015, 12:21
The landing was purrfect.

Wensleydale
22nd Jun 2015, 12:28
Poor pre-flight checks. He could have lost his flying cat!

Wensleydale
22nd Jun 2015, 12:30
.....or.....


Didn't the Tornado have a Mouser in the front?

54Phan
22nd Jun 2015, 12:33
My Feline Overlord Reginald The Aloof gives this two paws up, and thanks you for sharing.:ok:

goudie
22nd Jun 2015, 12:37
I was just watching CM's link on my laptop while Mrs G was watching the news.
She suddenly cried out ''oh look at that poor cat!'' I looked up and there it was on the TV.

Exascot
22nd Jun 2015, 12:47
Old story and not sure if true but transport aircraft carrying loads of missiles with safety pins in with flag saying 'remove before flight' so the loadmaster did :eek:

son of brommers
22nd Jun 2015, 13:13
Couldn't happen in the UK, we're not CAT equipped.............

Fortissimo
22nd Jun 2015, 13:30
Exascot

The incident you refer to involved 8 x 8 mx loads (4 Skyflash, 4 AIM9L) during Op CORPORATE, Leuchars to ASI. All motors and warheads armed, and fuse covers and noddy caps removed by the LM. ISTR the AIM9L were returned to the UK because of suspected damage to the seeker heads - the noddy caps were there for impact protection but also to prevent the un-powered heads bouncing off the stops. CM will probably be able to spout the technical details for you because he was a QWI and had to learn all that stuff.

CoffmanStarter
22nd Jun 2015, 13:51
Courtney, is that a Mrs Slocombe in the LH seat perchance :}

JointShiteFighter
22nd Jun 2015, 16:28
WD:

.....or.....


Didn't the Tornado have a Mouser in the front?

:D:D:D:D:D

Danny42C
22nd Jun 2015, 18:22
"Not much of a walk-round, was it, Hoskins ? - you'll have do better than that - it could have been cat-astrophic !"

("Only eight lives left now" says Tibbles).

or "Here's looking at you, Cat",

or "Cats Away !"

(I'm not staying long)

Courtney Mil
22nd Jun 2015, 18:58
Which only goes to show that there's more comedy genius in a few, worthy, PPRuNe members than all of the Cambridge Footlights.

I was just watching CM's link on my laptop while Mrs G was watching the news. She suddenly cried out ''oh look at that poor cat!'' I looked up and there it was on the TV.

Remember you saw it here first!

JointShiteFighter
22nd Jun 2015, 19:34
Danny:

Walk-around? Are you suggesting that this lovely couple actually did a walk-around pre-flight? :)

Fareastdriver
22nd Jun 2015, 19:43
Flies a bit left wing low, Chief.

Danny42C
22nd Jun 2015, 20:08
Hoskins cat-egorically denies that there were any foreign feline objects on board when he taxied out !

(Shall we transfer this to the Cat-iion Competition ?)

:*

DCThumb
22nd Jun 2015, 20:51
Now I know what he was up to, he only landed because he had lost his duck...

Cat and Duck Method

Place a live cat on the cockpit floor. Because a cat always remains upright, it can be used instead of the artificial horizon. Simply watch which way the cat leans to determine if a wing is low, and if so, which one.
The duck is used for the instrument approach. Because any sensible duck will refuse to fly under instrument conditions, it is only necessary to hurl your duck out of the aircraft and follow it to the ground.

Limitation to Cat and Duck Method
Get a wide-awake cat. Most cats don't want to stand up at all. It may be necessary to carry a large dog in the cockpit to make the cat pay attention.
Make sure your cat is clean. Dirty cats spend all their time washing. Trying to follow a washing cat usually results in a snap roll followed by an inverted spin.
Use an old cat. Young cats still have many of their nine lives left, but an old cat has just as much to lose as you do and will be more dependable.
Avoid cowardly ducks. If the duck discovers you are using the cat to keep the wings level, it may refuse to leave without the cat. Ducks are no better at IMC than you are.
Make sure your duck has good eyesight. Nearsighted ducks may fail to realize they are on the gauges and go flailing off into the nearest mountain. Very nearsighted ducks may not realize they have been thrown from the aircraft and will descend to the ground in a sitting position. This is very difficult to follow in an airplane.
Use land-loving ducks. It is very discouraging to break out and find yourself on final to a rice paddy, especially if there are duck hunters around. Duck hunters suffer from temporary insanity after sitting in freezing blinds and will shoot at anything that flies.
Finally, choose your duck carefully. It's easy to confuse ducks with geese because many waterfowl look alike. Geese are competent instrument fliers, but they seldom go where you want them to. If your duck sets off for Canada or New Zealand, you can sure you've been given the goose.

Courtney Mil
22nd Jun 2015, 21:46
I used to subscribe to the cat and duck theory, but now you've shown me the limitations it's all got a bit too complicated. Instrument Flying suddenly seems a bit more simple. Unless it's limited panel UP recoveries.

Courtney Mil
22nd Jun 2015, 21:49
Erwin Schrödinger might have had something to say, sorry, think about this. If the girl in the aircraft hadn't looked at the cat, should it still have been safe?

O-P
22nd Jun 2015, 21:56
DCT,


Thanks for that! Made I laugh.


What would happen if you could only find a fox and not a dog...well apart from duck and fox blood everywhere?

Courtney Mil
22nd Jun 2015, 22:26
I think I'll just go with the dog theory. Take a faithful old pal flying with you and whilst you're plummeting to a horrible death, he'll lick your face and take your mind off the inevitable fate that awaits you. Better to die flying and happy.

Danny42C
23rd Jun 2015, 00:22
Schrödinger's Cat decided it was safer to be in the Box, after all.

O-P
23rd Jun 2015, 00:24
CM,


I met your dogs at Leuchars, (the two red nutters) they wouldn't of had a clue what was happening...then again they'd have been more than happy on 43 with their soul mates!

Danny42C
23rd Jun 2015, 00:46
(Here's four more to while away the night)

Curiosity (nearly) Killed the Cat,

"Must have been raining Cats and Dogs, but the Dogs weren't as good at grabbing passing microlights....

(Amendment to Pilot's Notes): Additional Vital Action before Take-Off: Secure all Loose Cats !

Felix (ask Grandad) got tired of walking, and decided that this was a better way. Has now decided not to do so again.

Danny42C
23rd Jun 2015, 22:27
Thinking about the "flying cat" story, and after many witty captions have been suggested, it occurs to me that some fabric under a couple of small dural tubes is an uncomfortable spot for any cat to choose to sit. In any case, it would have been impossible for the animal to get up there once the aircraft was moving, therefore it got up while it was stationary (presumably as a warm spot in the sun).

Cats are not stupid. Once the engine had started (certainly after the aircraft started to move), any cat I know would have jumped off its perch. If it got up there, it would certainly have been able to jump down.

Could it be that the cat was deliberately taken up there, and then placed in its perilous position before filming started? (Note that the filming starts leaving the ground, not from the beginning of the roll - I must admit that that would be a tricky operation), just to make an amusing bit of video ? That would be cruel; the animal would be terrified out of it wits, and could have fallen off to its death.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, for otherwise it sounds like a case for the RSPCA. What do other PPRuNers think ?

Danny42C

Big Pistons Forever
24th Jun 2015, 00:00
RSPCA........ Would that be the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Aeroplanes ?

Martin the Martian
24th Jun 2015, 11:53
Cats will make themselves comfortable in the most uncomfortable of places, and I would imagine it was a lovely, warm place to have a snooze. After its initial shock, it did seem remarkably composed to sit there with the wind ruffling its fur.

langleybaston
24th Jun 2015, 15:58
Worth the CAT ASS Trophy surely?

CoffmanStarter
24th Jun 2015, 16:04
Is Master Green still a mil instrument CAT or just the cat's name :confused:

Courtney Mil
24th Jun 2015, 18:21
Coff, I had three instrument ratings. Cello, guitar and piano. All of the rated terrible.

Warmtoast
24th Jun 2015, 23:08
Courtney Mil & Danny42C

Latest theory argues that gravity would kill Schrödinger's cat whether its here, there or wherever! See here: Gravity Kills Schrödinger's Cat - Scientific American (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-kills-schroedinger-s-cat/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20150624)

Danny42C
25th Jun 2015, 00:44
Warmtoast,

Whether or not gravity might have killed Schrödinger's cat, it would certainly have put paid to this puss had it dropped off in the circuit !

Danny.