EK Cost Index

[B-HKD]

Supposedly the company has given this latest directive to dispatch following the CI400 fiasco:

CI200-300 for flights up to 10hrs.

CI60-70 for flights up to 14hrs.

CI40-45 for freighters.

This applying to the B777 fleet.

Are you guys seeing this on the line?

Curious as to what is actually being planned on the B777 ULRs. DXB-GRU/IAD/BOS/ORD/SEA and the returns to DXB. Westbound block times are very close to schedule block. Eastbound the block times are often quite a bit shorter than schedule block. But the company does not want crews slowing down?

[ClearnceClarence]

DWC-HKG-DWC on the freighter few days back.
CI45

Anyone fly a ULR recently?

[JAARule]

Fiasco? I thought it was brilliant, but then I don't try to second guess how they make their money. Shame they woke up to whatever it was they woke up to.

[falconeasydriver]

East Asian layover, CI200 on the way out, fly time 40 mins less than block, CI55 on the way back, flight time 8 minutes longer than block :D

[flaphandlemover]

BOS was cost index 60

[ClearnceClarence]

East Asian layover, CI200 on the way out, fly time 40 mins less than block, CI55 on the way back, flight time 8 minutes longer than block

In this case up to CI400 could have been used to make schedule, however I do wonder why they planned it at CI55 to begin with. Unless of course the delay was related to taxiing, holding, etc.

BOS was cost index 60

Was the return to DXB also CI60?

That does go hand in hand with what dispatch is supposedly planning the different block times with.

The eastbound ULRs , expecially: BOS/GRU/IAD/ORD to DXB are regularly returning to DXB 40-50 minutes early.

These used to be planned at CI10, however that has changed it seems.

You would think gate space etc. is an issue when flights are regularly arriving that much earlier back at DXB, because the schedule block times are too long, especially the ULRs. Why are these block times so conservative?

However EK certainly knows the real block times and uses those for the hubs gate planning, aircraft rotation etc.

[flaphandlemover]

The return was planed in that range as well...

Buy what ever it is.... It is.....

[kumul1]

Aha....All has been revealed......read your latest Flight Ops Update #200.

[B-HKD]

Aha....All has been revealed......read your latest Flight Ops Update #200.

Do enlighten us!

[ekwhistleblower]

Wouldn't realistic block times help?

[MrMachfivepointfive]

Wouldn't realistic block times help?

Not in selling tickets. That's all about end to end journey time.

[JAYTO]

you forgot one very important word.

Not in selling tickets. That's all about PERCEIVED end to end journey time.